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 Post subject: Re: Banned from soberrecovery.com
PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:22 pm 
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I found these two definitions on the same website http://www.medterms.com:

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Opioid: 1. A synthetic narcotic that resembles the naturally occurring opiates. 2. Any substance that binds to or otherwise affects the opiate receptors on the surface of the cell.

Opiate: A medication or illegal drug that is either derived from the opium poppy, or that mimics the effect of an opiate (a synthetic opiate). Opiate drugs are narcotic sedatives that depress activity of the central nervous system, reduce pain, and induce sleep. Side effects may include oversedation, nausea, and constipation. Long term use of opiates can produce addiction, and overuse can cause overdose and potentially death.


[sarcasm]OK, that clarified it for me.[/sarcasm] One definition is inconsistent with the other. If a medical website is confusing in it's terminology, then what hope is there for non-physicians? Also, wikipedia references, very often made here, may be correct, but remember that wikipedia is "democratically" composed and may not reflect reality. A good way to check this is to read the entries on something that you are truly an expert on, and count the inaccuracies; if you run out of fingers take off your socks and continue. ;)

Where is this endless discussion going, anyway? Next we'll be discussing the meaning of the word "is".

Bob

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 Post subject: Re: Banned from soberrecovery.com
PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:19 pm 
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For you irony fans out there, Dreadnought quoted the very entry in wikipedia that was penned by RR and prompted the observation by LoOp that wikipedia is in need of an edit. You can't make this stuff up!!!!!

Shall we move this thread to the boxing ring?

I still am hoping for a response by dreadnought to my last post here.


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 Post subject: Re: Banned from soberrecovery.com
PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:17 pm 
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OMG is an understatement -

I thought we were done with this nonsense! Loved LoOp's crayon drawing! This guy is going to argue for the sake of arguing. PLease move it away...it's so annoying now. Like a near-blind, in need of lasic, bamboozled mosquito who has quaffed 14 beers in its little teeny tiny pie hole but continues to annoy those it uptakes against anyway!

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 Post subject: Re: Banned from soberrecovery.com
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