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 Post subject: Re: TSM MediaWiki
PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 4:56 am 
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Okay...

The Wiki is set up at http://www.thesinclairmethod.com/wiki.

Use your username and password for this site to log in. I am going to try to find a mod that will let us jump back and forth without having to log in twice. You will receive an e-mail that you'll need to respond to before you can post to the wiki site.

In an ironic twist, I believe that ~Q~ is an invalid username for WikiMedia, so ~Q~, you might consider another username that doesn't include non-alpha characters.

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 Post subject: Re: TSM MediaWiki
PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 6:58 am 
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N101CS wrote:
...As sensitive a topic as alcoholism is, the fewer people who have access to people's personal business the better. When the time comes to add administrators, I will do so after carefully considering who would be best for the job...
I absolutely agree with the concept of the fewer people who have personal information, the better.

However, I do have a concern that on something as important as this support forum is to so many people's lives, that only one person is able to run it. What happens if, God forbid, something happens to you where you could no longer support this lifeline that we have here? Many would be lost without this site. I recommend that for anything this important there should be at least one backup administrator. If there's a question of cost, there are many here who would commit their dollars. I for one would have no problem footing the entire cost; after all, TSM gave me my life back and that is priceless.

So, please consider at least one more backup admin that has the proper technical skills, just in case.

Thanks.

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 Post subject: Re: TSM MediaWiki
PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:17 am 
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RV,

I would have to agree that a backup admin is not a bad idea at this point..and Q would likely be an ideal candidate (I trust him). This is in no way a complaint about your abilities - it's just best practice to have a backup with the tools and the rights to get the site back up and running in the event of a failure. You can't be expected to be on call 100% of the time... and as Bob pointed out, to many this site is a lifeline.


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 Post subject: Re: TSM MediaWiki
PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:02 am 
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>>>would have to agree that a backup admin is not a bad idea at this point<<<

Okay, will consider that and do something. I agree that if I get hit by a bus someone will need to step in.

I am also going to work on getting the boards and Wiki more integrated. I agree with Q's suggestion that we need a frontend that ties everything together.

For now see that we have a little 'Wiki' link up top.


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 Post subject: Re: TSM MediaWiki
PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:00 am 
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WaitingToExhale wrote:
Is it that I am using a different computer, or has the header of the forums page been changed from The Sinclair Method to The Cure for Alcoholism?
I BIG LETTERS???


It was changed about a half an hour ago, yes.


edit: I have firefox and just right clicked and selected "block images from thesinclairmethod.com" and it disappeared. everybody around my comp knows my predicament so it's a non-issue for me. :roll: I'm sure there is a solution no matter what browser you're using. The statement up top there is the truth. But IMO, it can actually be a turn off until an individual gets some reading/researching under their belt.

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 Post subject: Re: TSM MediaWiki
PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:37 am 
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Okay, I changed it back and will leave it that way until I can get a more subtle image.


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 Post subject: Re: TSM MediaWiki
PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:29 pm 
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N101CS wrote:
Just so we're clear, that was a response to your kind offer to provide a backup server and/or storage space. It was not in response to the MediaWiki idea, which I think is a fine one. At the time I PMed you back about the backup space, you hadn't yet mentioned the MediaWiki.


Agreed. I was a little frustrated at the time of making this post, as I thought I'd pm'ed you a few times with suggestions, etc., but didn't get any responses. Perhaps it was Nick I'd messaged about some of this.

I understand now your time constraints: Thank you for the PM.

N101CS wrote:
Anyway, my response was accurate: We have database backups and plenty of space. There may be a time we outgrow what we've got and we can look at our options then. We'd have to grow the membership 10,000% (or more) to outgrow our current space and even then, all it would take is my credit card to open up more space.


That's great to hear. I made the offer around the time there were issues with the .com/.net sites. There were login issues with the forum as well as broken links pointing to the .com webspace. At the time, I was hoping to help with some of this.

N101CS wrote:
As far as there only being one administrator goes, well keep in mind that this place is only six months old and only has a couple hundred members. Comparatively speaking, this is a tiny forum that needs little moderation. There have been relatively few things Lena and Nick can't do.


As previously offered, I'd be happy to help with this and I do have the experience to do so. I've been fairly heavily involved with GNU/GPL communities for 10+ years.

As you've pointed out, your time is limited, mine is not. I own my own business and make my own hours.

While this forum may not require much backend admin, one could start playing around with a frontend just as Joomla or Drupal. Both will tie phpBB and mediawiki together with a single user login.

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 Post subject: Re: TSM MediaWiki
PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:32 pm 
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>>>would have to agree that a backup admin is not a bad idea at this point<<<

Okay, will consider that and do something. I agree that if I get hit by a bus someone will need to step in.

I am also going to work on getting the boards and Wiki more integrated. I agree with Q's suggestion that we need a frontend that ties everything together.

For now see that we have a little 'Wiki' link up top.


The way you have mediawiki setup is not going to be easy to use. It is setup with "long urls." We want to be using "short urls," like wikipedia. Browser over to wikipedia and look at the difference -- notice that the index.php?xxxx isn't there.

Also, there are some mediawiki skins that would be a little more userfriendly than the default one.

Q

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 Post subject: Re: TSM MediaWiki
PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:49 pm 
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>>>The way you have mediawiki setup is not going to be easy to use. It is setup with "long urls." We want to be using "short urls," like wikipedia.<<<

I know and understand the difference. As long as people are clicking around, it will make no difference. Nobody here is going to be typing URLs. I can change it, but I only had a couple hours to get the thing set up (at 4 A.M. today), so I just knocked it out. URL rewriting was low on my list...

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N101CS -- We all really appreciate the work you put into this. We never forget that we wouldn't be here without you. You're a life saver -- quite literally.


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