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 Post subject: Re: Potato, could you please summarize your experience
PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:28 am 
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Thank you Potato, it's great to hear of your progress.

Shasha, I guess if you could wait until you have a drink before you have the first cig, it could extinguish both addictions at once?


Sinclair says that Naltrexone does not seem to work on nicotine. Nicotine addiciotion uses a different receptor. Of course, some may benefit if alcohol is a trigger for smoking.

I don't smoke but if I did, I think I would concentrate on one addiction at a time.

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 Post subject: Re: Potato, could you please summarize your experience
PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:32 am 
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Any improvements did not start occurring until at least a month to 2 months of doing the method.


That is good to here. So many are getting a little discouraged after two weeks because they have not been "cured". Extinction is a slow process.

Keep us all posted of your progress. We truly need pioneers like yourself.

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 Post subject: Re: Potato, could you please summarize your experience
PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:51 am 
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I read online that Naltrexone is sometimes an effective cure for smokers. It seems to depend on an individual's chemical/neurological response makeup. Up to 50% of female smokers quit while on Naltrexone. (I'm headed out, but will try to find the study this weekend, or Monday.)

I have an instinct that says that Nal+some other drug might be the ticket for smokers. . .


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 Post subject: Re: Potato, could you please summarize your experience
PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 8:47 am 
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Hi all, I have no idea whether or not Nal helps smoking but I am not working on 2 addictions at once SR. I just always used to smoke when I drank and as a side effect of not drinking, I am not smoking. Still doing great. I do not get the urge to smoke if I don't drink. Never have. That is why hangovers were really brutal because they were from booze and cigs. Thanks to all for your input and encouragement. Back at ya. Keep going because I am loving this. I have lost at least 10 pounds, maybe more. I am interested to hear how a daily drinker is doing after 4 or 5 months. Best wishes to all. !!! Remember. " Worry is a dark room where negatives are developed." :D


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 Post subject: Re: Potato, could you please summarize your experience
PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:06 am 
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potato wrote:
" Worry is a dark room where negatives are developed." :D

GREAT QUOTE potato!
Glad to hear you are having good results. I too am doing better, having a few downslides and difficulties, but generally a positive improvement. Yes at first for me the cigs were not at all tastiing good, now they are serving the place of a stress reducer, but as Springer says, one thing at a time, at least for me. Funny thing, my smoking went way up at the rehab clinic, how heathy is that? :P :P :P


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 Post subject: Re: Potato, could you please summarize your experience
PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:16 am 
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Hi, just googled and found this:-

http://biopsychiatry.com/tobacco/naltrexone.html

I would assume that participants took Nal before they began smoking during the day. As I smoke throughout the day and evening, I think it unlikely that much effective "blocking" would take place. But who knows? I have found that after taking Nal I smoke less during my drinking session in the evening - it just tastes more unpleasant than usual.

Take your point SR about one addiction at a time - but wouldn't it be great if it helped with the demon fags as well?!

PS: Avatar is Rumpole of the Bailey - UK thing (ficitional debauched defence attorney), but think I'll change it anyway - bit too close to a mirror for comfort!

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 Post subject: Re: Potato, could you please summarize your experience
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Yes, I discovered the results of this article quoted on many websites. I quit smoking 30 years ago, TG - but both my daughters smoke, and it is a great concern to me, as my mother passed from lung cancer. They both also drink to excess. . .so I'm really hoping that as I begin to demonstrate the effects of TSM, they might sit up and take notice. Wouldn't it be great if they could rid themselves of two life-threatening addictions? I suspected the Nal would work if combined with something else, and maybe also hypnosis therapy?


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 Post subject: Re: Potato, could you please summarize your experience
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Having a harder time with things today but still doing well. We finally got some good weather and so I went downstairs this afternoon only to find my whole basement floor/ carpet flooded!! The first time that has happened since I got the house in 1998! God what a mess. I think the whole carpet has to go. I don't even want to think of it!!! I want to change my state but am dealing with it so far. This is a hard evening. Good luck to all. :)


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potato wrote:
Having a harder time with things today but still doing well. We finally got some good weather and so I went downstairs this afternoon only to find my whole basement floor/ carpet flooded!! The first time that has happened since I got the house in 1998! God what a mess. I think the whole carpet has to go. I don't even want to think of it!!! I want to change my state but am dealing with it so far. This is a hard evening. Good luck to all. :)



Sorry to hear about the flood Potato.

The think when a big trigger like that comes along is if I take the nal and drink, its OK, because the outcome is not going to be as severe as pre-nal, and that way I am on my way to extinguising another trigger, and the next time a household disaster rears it's head I wont be so likely to grab the bottle and might be more likely to deal with it without the drink.

Hope you got the mess cleaned up a bit. :(


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 Post subject: Re: Potato, could you please summarize your experience
PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 6:26 pm 
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Thanks Marbella, I took my pill and had some drinks but it wasn't a blow-out. Thank goodness. Still cleaning up flood but got some help. Triggers are alot when I take the time to identify them instead of always "knee-jerk" reacting. Hmmm.


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