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 Post subject: Re: Crown86 Progress
PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:28 am 
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Thanks for checking back in Crown, and it's great to hear you're doing so well!

(reminder to self five years from now.......... :) )


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 Post subject: Re: Crown86 Progress
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:17 pm 
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Well guys I'm back. Started drinking again without the pill and guess what? lol...not good results. At this point I would classify myself as a binge drinker. I can go a couple weeks a month maybe 2 but when I let loose man the tolerance is there, I drink into a black-out and man the hangovers. Sometimes the binge has been a day or maybe 3. Had a couple occasions recently where I acted like a total asshole with friends and my girl because I was drunk. My girl said to me about a week ago when we were out " I never thought I would be THAT girl with the guy who reaks of booze so bad it's coming through his pores the next day". Man did I feel LIKE ****!!!

Needless to say placed my order today for more NAL. It will be here in a couple weeks so I will just stay dry till it arrives which is not that hard for me. Im sure I will get irritable in those couple weeks but it is what it is. The cool part for me I know this worked before in a big way and really feel it saved my life. I am in a WAY different frame of mind these days. Now I care about my life unlike the first time when I could have easily done a Leaving Las Vegas routine. I got way too much good in my life these days to destroy it all over booze and buzz. I feel I have caught myself before I could go into that really dark place that booze takes me and never want to go back there again.

I know I sounded like a poster child for TSM but like any great alcoholic I had to test the limits. Quite honestly I had been away from booze a for a long while and I just wanted to get drunk and banged up. That just simply does not work for me. One time turns to 3 times, then 11 times, then the once a week 2 day binges are back and bring on the darkness.

I know TSM will fix this for me like it did before and I am nowhere near as bad as before. I don't really have a goal of abstinence or controlled drinking. I am simply going to take the pill anytime I want to drink even 1 beer see where it all goes. Nal has gotten me to controlled drinking in the past and also led to abstinence so who knows. Kinda sucks to be an alcoholic and I am sure I will struggle with booze the rest of my life. I guess my ultimate goal is to simply take the pill EVERY TIME I feel the need to drink.

I am feeling very positive and thank God that TSM has worked in the past for me. If my only option was AA I would fail HUGE. Will try to post and let you guys know how it goes.


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 Post subject: Re: Crown86 Progress
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:56 pm 
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OH Crown - I am SO sorry that you started drinking again without the nal - I am sure that you had your reasons - but that is so sad! I am glad that you came back though - you are not the first person to come back after being 'cured' and then start drinking again without using the Nal. It just does not work. it is good for us who are later than you to see what happens - and to never start again without it!

I wish you all the best and hope that it works as well for you this time round. How long did it take for the nal to work for you ? It took me 11 months! Thought it was NEVER going to work!

Keep posting .....

hugs, Maggie

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Month 12: 4 drinks TOTAL (Dec '15)
13: 2 drinks (nearly) for Jan '16 !!!
None since Jan '16 I feel that I can safely say that I am cured!


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 Post subject: Re: Crown86 Progress
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:43 pm 
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Maggie1929

For me Nal was like the honeymoon that never quit. It had almost an immediate effect the first time I took it and I was bad bad at the time. This time around I simply started drinking because I wanted to get drunk. I have never eluded myself that I do not have a major problem with alcohol or I was "cured" and now drink without the pill. I simply wanted that old drunk feeling. Cool part is I do not look at "sobriety" in AA type terms so screwing up a little has not caused me much guilt etc.

The other awesome part is I know how bad things can get and how good things can get thanks to Nal. So after a few bad times with booze I was like I am not going back to where I was and I know the tools to stop the ride. Like i sad my ultimate goal is consistently take the pill anytime I want to drink for the rest of my life. LOL there are worse things in life.


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 Post subject: Re: Crown86 Progress
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 5:02 pm 
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Hi, Crown. It's good to see a long-time member check in even if it's not the update one might anticipate. I have a hunch you'll benefit from barryb4's update a few months ago:

http://www.thesinclairmethod.net/community/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=4559&sid=6ed9c98c9b92ba160683f183aa141065

It took me a little while to understand his perspective and points and in many ways you echo them. Namely, not feeling guilt or shame and excluding weighty words like 'relapse' and weighty AA evaluations. I've been such a disastrous drunk and so hate those cravings and compulsions I find it hard to believe I would ever drink sans NAL. I guess it's a distinct possibility, but most importantly it's great to know if NAL worked once it can work again. As such I'll be interested to see your progress the second time around. Welcome back.

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 Post subject: Re: Crown86 Progress
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 5:52 pm 
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Crown,

Thanks for coming back and reminding us what will happen without the nal. I am glad you caught yourself before it got too bad, and I hope you keep us posted with your progress, for it will be interesting to see if you respond the same way or if you have different side effects.

I am fairly new to this, but I am afraid to drink without the nal...but who knows how I will feel in a couple of years, or what state of mind I will be in...you are amongst friends!

I hope your nal arrives quickly,

Jaba


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 Post subject: Re: Crown86 Progress
PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:15 am 
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thanks for sharing your experience Crown. it's a good to hear your perspective, as being one of the "cured" it's tempting to not bother taking Nal for minimal drinking. my desire to get drunk is pretty much completely gone, but backing off on the Nal would change that desire I know.

I like what you said about how Nal has shown you how good things can be and how bad things can be. my feelings exactly. I know now what it's like not to be drinking and I really like what it does for me.

good for you for realizing you went too far and getting back on Nal. how long did it take before things went bat$hit without it????

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started 4/16/15
months 1-6: avg 17/ 1 AF/wk
months 7-12: avg 13/2 AF/wk
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 Post subject: Re: Crown86 Progress
PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 4:48 pm 
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Man that Nal get here soon enough lol. So much for staying dry until it arrives. But the good part it should be here next week and my girl is gone all this week for work. Stayed AF last week and got hammered last night. Really looking forward to getting back on Nal and keeping things in check.

Zontar - It didn't take too long to get back to alcoholic drinking like maybe a month or so. Everything was fine and I hadn't drank in couldn't even remember when and didn't miss it. Quitting was effortless for me with nal as time progressed. I decided to hit a bar a couple times after work and have a few. Maybe on my second or 3rd stop that good feeling of the buzz hit and I stopped on the way home for a bottle and some beers to finish the evening off right. Tolerance was there the whole 9 blacked out etc. Right now I am getting hammered maybe 6 times a month which for me is really not that bad compared to say 08 or 09. But I am acting like an asshole and know damn well where all this leads - right back to hell. Nal will help me hop off the train before it gets too fast.

Lesson learned for me - I hope - never freaking ever drink without nal no matter how much time away from the bottle I have. With the bottle for me it's always the same, it leads to nothing but trouble etc. I know for me the desire to get hammered will always be there to some extent. Somehow it will creep up out of nowhere like it did. I figure as long as I take the pill I will be fine. I have made a commitment to myself once the nal arrives NEVER to drink without it. Funny how easy it is to forget all the hell with some time away from it.


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 Post subject: Re: Crown86 Progress
PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 7:50 pm 
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Welcome back Crown - I hope you have the same success this time around. And that you keep us up to date like you did on your first go around.

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Start 6/24/15
Pre 10-14 drinks day/70-100 wk
month/avg unit week/af total
1/118/1
2/81/7
3/55/6
4/37/14
5/44/5
6/24/8
7/40/12
8/19/13af
9/27/13af
10/34/8
Month 11 - did not count
Month 12 counted last week -34/3af


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 Post subject: Re: Crown86 Progress
PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 6:40 am 
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crown86 wrote:
Lesson learned for me - I hope - never freaking ever drink without nal no matter how much time away from the bottle I have. With the bottle for me it's always the same, it leads to nothing but trouble etc. I know for me the desire to get hammered will always be there to some extent. Somehow it will creep up out of nowhere like it did. I figure as long as I take the pill I will be fine. I have made a commitment to myself once the nal arrives NEVER to drink without it. Funny how easy it is to forget all the hell with some time away from it.


Crown86, Nal has not worked for me yet and I too went off it not really by choice but it never arrived before my trip to Mexico where I presently am. Thank God I heard from a friend it has arrived at his place and he is bringing some to me next week here. I tad a few Nal and have taken them for 5 days so far but got totally hammered the other night (never ate dinner) and really paid for it yesterday. God I felt awful so had an AF day yesterday.
Anyway I am hoping getting back with TSM I will have success like you and so many others sooner than later as I actually started Oct 14th 2014 and never had wavered from the Golden Rule up until this January and the beginning of February.
Thanks for coming back and keeping us updated.
Nal On!


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