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 Post subject: Re: badger's progress
PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:33 pm 
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badger1 wrote:
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I think I need to reread the book. I have such a hard time with science but maybe if I forced myself to try and understand it a little better it would be easier to have the patience

* pre-Nal:
you drink. brain gets a rush of endorphins. brain learns Drinking = Good

* with Nal:
you drink. Nal blocks the endorphins. brain learns Drinking = Not Good

as time goes on the brain learns that "Drinking = Not Good" each time you drink with Nal, which gradually chips away at the "Drinking = Good" that it learned pre-Nal


A better way to look at it, you come to discover that not drinking is good, and you can finally see that drinking to excess is bad, and you won't want to do it.

That happens more and more, the less you drink. Nice to see your progress Badger!


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:41 pm 
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A better way to look at it, you come to discover that not drinking is good, and you can finally see that drinking to excess is bad, and you won't want to do it.

That happens more and more, the less you drink. Nice to see your progress Badger!

I think the two go hand in hand. as extinction lifts the compulsion to drink, then yes, it gives you the opportunity to see that not drinking, far from being a penance, is acctualy desirable

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:58 pm 
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Bingo !


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badger1 wrote:
Guapo wrote:
A better way to look at it, you come to discover that not drinking is good, and you can finally see that drinking to excess is bad, and you won't want to do it.

That happens more and more, the less you drink. Nice to see your progress Badger!

I think the two go hand in hand. as extinction lifts the compulsion to drink, then yes, it gives you the opportunity to see that not drinking, far from being a penance, is acctualy desirable


Life without alcohol is doable, in fact it's mostly better. You see through the scam!

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:39 am 
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UKblonde wrote:
Life without alcohol is doable, in fact it's mostly better. You see through the scam!

I'm getting there slowly :)

I might have to give Allan Carr another read - I just didn't want to hear what he had to say the last time I tried

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badger1 wrote:
UKblonde wrote:
Life without alcohol is doable, in fact it's mostly better. You see through the scam!

I'm getting there slowly :)

I might have to give Allan Carr another read - I just didn't want to hear what he had to say the last time I tried


Hi badger.

I read both him, and Jason Vail. They both preached abstinence, but they make some good points The major one of which, is that excess drinking is JUST PLAIN STUPID


I found it pretty convincing!

I'm not interested in abstinence, but there is no doubt, it helps with drinking sanely.


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 Post subject: Re: badger's progress
PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 10:56 am 
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Yes badger - that might be a good idea for me too o read Alan Carr again - he made a lot of sense when I read him last time - and I actually stopped with him too .... for a while ! Didn't care for Jason Vail as he just copied Carr after working with him - but he says pretty much the same thing obviously. I seem to be wandering aimlessly with all this - maybe I need a focus of sorts - I am definitely going backwards that is for sure !

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I wish there was a like button,like on facebook. I have enjoyed the read.


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 Post subject: Re: badger's progress
PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 6:20 pm 
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The read of the book Meggie ?

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What are the books by Alan Carr and Jason Vail that are being mentioned here? I'd be curious to possibly check one or both of them out. Thanks!

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