jaba wrote:
Thanks UK Blonde,
I still think this is pretty confusing, for I have control now, and
I can finally stop. Where before I would have to drink until all the al. was gone in the house, or pass out and I was never able to have an af day even after a heavy night of drinking (the benefit of not having a hangover

). I have seen that my desire is stronger in different situations, but I am still able to control my intake, although it is little more than I prefer; however, I am still able to stop.
I am unsure if it really matters about the amount you drink as long as you are drinking in situations that triggers your drinking, or am I wrong? And if you have control, shouldn't stop if you can? For isn't that considered
mindful drinking? I surely do not want to keep drinking just because my brain is screaming "FEED ME" and I know I have had enough, or I will regret it in the morning with a hangover or a nal. over. I am putting myself in situations that caused me to drink in the past, but I also have avoided certain situations in fear of not being able to control my drinking (being around my mother-in-law is one of them). I understand if I do not put myself in those situations I am avoiding I always have that strong desire (and maybe problems) and most likely have an issue unless I take the nal. and drink...BUT do I really need to drink like I did before, or could I just have 2 glasses of wine like a normal person and move on in hopes that the extinction process will happen in time?
I also thought that af days were a good thing as long as you are not white knuckling it all the time? Just because I have a moment of weakness and get the urge should I pop that pill and drink? Or should I stay with my commitment of being af? I thought that we had to figure out how to live with al. in our life like a normal person, not turning to al. because it is habit. Like me drinking to help me sleep...I know that drinking doesn't do anything to help sleep, but I still had it in my mind I should drink to help me relax. I had stopped that mind frame a couple of weeks ago, but the tension I felt and that was/is my habit. Should I not let logic in and tell my booze brain NO!
I find it that the response that Dr. Eskapa gave Cheeto was not a yes or no answer. I would have like to have seen an answer that was more "no, you must keep on drinking" or "yes, as long as you are in situations that trigger your drinking, one glass is enough". Instead he goes back to what the book says and drink like you normally would...which doesn't answer the question does it really matter about the amount! Or am I missing something?
Jaba
Brilliant, yes and yes.
The problem comes when I've seen some try TSM and think they have to drink the same amount that they always did.
My interpretation is and always has been 'drink as you feel' - so if you don't want to drink your usual amount, then don't.
I didn't want to drink my usual amount both before and during my very first TSM drink, and nal helped me to immediately reduce although my weekly amount stayed the same. Then I said I don't like drinking 5 days a week, let's have a go at more AF days.
When I say 'forced' I mean an active decision not to drink and I did do things that helped me do that. Whether that's against TSM rules or not I don't care because it helped me and I know it helped others.
Some people on another forum (not C3) say that I wasn't a proper alcoholic, some also say I didn't do TSM properly.
Eskapa says that 1 tablet covers 24 hours, so even if I took my nal in the morning, several hours before because I didn't trust myself to wait once I'd decided to drink (I'd decide then do it) it still sounds like TSM to me.