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 Post subject: POST BY ROY ESKAPA, PhD
PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 1:21 pm 
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I have heard that the information on The Sinclair Method I posted yesterday has generated a certain amount of conversation and confusion.

I would like to clarify that I have not been involved with this forum for a long time and any posts I made were infrequent. However, I will now be answering a limited number of questions on another forum as and when time permits.



I would like to make it clear to everyone who has been wondering why this is the case.



It had nothing to do with any financial incentives or promotion of our book The Cure for Alcoholism: The Medically Proven Way to Eliminate Alcohol Addiction…as I hear has been alleged.


The main reasons why I have seldom posted on this forum are because some of the information being posted here is inaccurate - even with the best of intentions.


However, much of the information does not accord with pharmacological extinction or The Sinclair Method (TSM) as the treatment model has come to be known.


TSM was researched and developed over three and a half decades at Alko Labs – now part of the National Public Health and Welfare Institute, Helsinki, Finland by my late mentor and beloved friend, Dr David Sinclair with whom I worked closely since 1991.


I spent one week with him in November 2014 in his cabin outside Helsinki. His health was deteriorating and he was weakening. I returned in March of 2015 just as the crocuses were coming out and the snows were melting to spend a final two weeks caring for him. His condition had worsened yet he was both delighted and grateful to see the documentary, One Little Pill made by Claudia Christian aired on national TV with Finnish subtitles.


During the course of our final time together, Dr Sinclair charged me with carrying the candle of truth and accuracy about how TSM should be implemented.


Since, this forum appears to be unmoderated, many misleading and, in my opinion, potentially harmful comments and suggestions are being allowed to stand. Dr Sinclair was a stickler for accuracy, and out of respect for both my promise to him and his memory, I feel I must now withdraw from any further participation on this site.


I wish everyone the best of success with whatever method works for them.



Roy Eskapa, PhD
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 Post subject: Re: POST BY ROY ESKAPA, PhD
PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 1:44 pm 
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It would be nice for those of us who are sincerely trying to make TSM work for us if you had given some clue of what you felt to be inaccurate or harmful. Newlife

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 Post subject: Re: POST BY ROY ESKAPA, PhD
PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 2:07 pm 
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I hope that he comes back to let us know WHAT exactly is so harmful on this site !!!! Is that really him ? Cannot believe he would just say that then disappear! If things are wrong here then he should let us know seeing as he wants to make sure that the stuff that his friend said will now be accurate !!! If he does not come back and let us know what is so wrong then I do not believe it was really him ......

Hugs, Maggie x

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 Post subject: Re: POST BY ROY ESKAPA, PhD
PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 2:58 pm 
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Maggie1929 wrote:
I hope that he comes back to let us know WHAT exactly is so harmful on this site !!!! Is that really him ? Cannot believe he would just say that then disappear! If things are wrong here then he should let us know seeing as he wants to make sure that the stuff that his friend said will now be accurate !!! If he does not come back and let us know what is so wrong then I do not believe it was really him ......

Maggie,

there was a bit of a kerfuffle on the C3 forum a while back about how this forum was perpetuating incorrect information about Nodict being time-release & not suitable for TSM (it isn't time-release & it is suitable). I suspect this is what the good Dr was referring to

-badger

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 Post subject: Re: POST BY ROY ESKAPA, PhD
PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 3:12 pm 
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I think it is more than that. I think some of us have found what works for us and it is not part of TSM. Like Steve using LDN, and me stopping my drinking even though my brain is screaming more (drink like you normally do is what is preached); however, anytime I give advice I try to remember to direct medical question to a medical professional and/or back to the optionssaveslives forum. But I guess I should just let people hang and find another way out.

I feel like a child being scolded.


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 Post subject: Re: POST BY ROY ESKAPA, PhD
PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 4:27 pm 
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jaba wrote:
I think it is more than that. I think some of us have found what works for us and it is not part of TSM. Like Steve using LDN, and me stopping my drinking even though my brain is screaming more (drink like you normally do is what is preached); however, anytime I give advice I try to remember to direct medical question to a medical professional and/or back to the optionssaveslives forum. But I guess I should just let people hang and find another way out.

I feel like a child being scolded.

I wouldn't worry about it. at the end of the day, it's a peer-to-peer forum & we can do what we like. the core message is still TSM & if a few people try some variations, that's up to them

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 Post subject: Re: POST BY ROY ESKAPA, PhD
PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 4:39 pm 
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badger1 wrote:
jaba wrote:
I think it is more than that. I think some of us have found what works for us and it is not part of TSM. Like Steve using LDN, and me stopping my drinking even though my brain is screaming more (drink like you normally do is what is preached); however, anytime I give advice I try to remember to direct medical question to a medical professional and/or back to the optionssaveslives forum. But I guess I should just let people hang and find another way out.

I feel like a child being scolded.

I wouldn't worry about it. at the end of the day, it's a peer-to-peer forum & we can do what we like. the core message is still TSM & if a few people try some variations, that's up to them

+1. if something's working for someone, it's working for someone. Eskapa's stance doesn't necessarily invalidate what some of us are doing. Nal on!

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 Post subject: Re: POST BY ROY ESKAPA, PhD
PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 5:04 pm 
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I feel we would have been much better served by his advice, rather than his condescension. This forum IS large and varied but in my opinion it is remarkably well self-policed. The large cross section of members if nothing else would seem to demonstrate that this is NOT a cut and dry science, that we all respond VERY differently and at different paces and with vastly different reactions to the process and the medication itself. There is no TEXTBOOK case. I think a leader in this field could possibly have gained valuable insights on this forum. The loss, I think, is not so much ours as it is Ekapa's.

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 Post subject: Re: POST BY ROY ESKAPA, PhD
PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 5:28 pm 
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Steven - I SO agree with you with everything that you said - and yes, it is his loss, not ours!!

Hugs, Maggie x

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 Post subject: Re: POST BY ROY ESKAPA, PhD
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I agree as well.


I still don't like being talked down to...like a child!


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