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UKblonde · **Posted:** Thu May 21, 2015 10:38 am

Guapo wrote:

Okay.

Alcohol is a depressant, although there is a temporary period you think you're happy . It is ultimately a depressant.

Naltrexone blocks the pleasure of alcohol, and other aspects of life, therefore it is also a depressant.

Continuing to overuse the depressant alcohol, and then add the depressant naltrexone to the mix , and Voila ! More depressantness !!

Drinking less alcohol however, and only using the naltrexone to block the temporary reward of alcohol, will lead to extinction.

You won't want to drink, because it's not fun, but you'll also be much happier, because you're not drinking and experiencing the depressant effects of the alcohol. It's crazy to want to use naltrexone every day, because then you blunt the pleasure of other things, such as exercise, sex, and life in general.

Therefore, limiting alcohol, and using naltrexone infrequently, limits your exposure to these depressant substances.

since drinking and naltrexone together are a double whammy regarding depression, there's not any real incentive to drink. Now alcohol free days, are days when you're not taking active measures to become depressed.

You can still drink if you want, but somehow it won't be appealing like it was. Being clearheaded and in control is much more appealing. What's good about getting drunk?

Lets just say your perspective regarding alcohol will change dramatically, but cannot change unless alcohol stops being the focus of your life.

Guapo

That is an absolutely genius post.

Flipping brilliant, I hope the others come and read it too.

I remember how horrible drinking + nal for several days in a row became - sure I initially had a good spell at the start of TSM because the relief from my units halving was immense, but then it became a bit, boring so I put in AF time.

I also would say that the eating issues I've experienced are proof that TSM doesn't remove whatever is underneath. For some people there may still be work to be done.

Talking about changing attitudes to alcohol, this BBC programme was shown this week, and is very interesting, it compares daily drinking to weekly binge drinking. I think only those people based on the UK will be able to view this, so I am sorry to those who are in other countries.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... y-that-bad

Maggie1929 · **Joined:** Thu Jan 22, 2015 12:27 pm **Posts:** 1691

No time for more right now.....but I did see that programme.....rather interesting...and a tad scary !!

Hugs, Maggie x

UKblonde · **Posted:** Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:06 am

Hi everyone

Sorry I've not been around, shortly after my house move relatives came to stay and filled the house, and with everything else I do I've just not had the time.

Points of note which I think are important are these;

I'm not using the Selincro
I am in company most of the time/with my partner who is very loving - I believe I have attachment issues, which is why I think this relationship is very powerful and healing for me(I've been a loner/struggled with relationships and people for a long time).
The move has also been part of lifestyle changes which has removed one large source of stress from my day to day life.
My eating binges have improved massively because of the change of environment/company and my own efforts
I have wanted to drink because I'm in a new town and it feels as if I'd be 'joining in' if I did, there are new pubs, new people to meet, and there was a party atmosphere during a great festival in the town centre over the weekend.

I have not drunk any alcohol - I know it would be horrible and open potential gates, and I can choose not to do that, so I take the choice of staying AF.

My 2 year AF anniversary is coming up next month

UKblonde · **Posted:** Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:45 am

I spoke too soon.

Just flipped my lid.

It's over the move, there is still stuff going on over the previous property which I was renting. This all started a week or two before I moved, with a right parlarver about the inventory which I'd signed in good faith but was actually quite a bit wrong. I've had problems with the property which have been constant, then this, then the cleaning company I employed missed somethings, then they want this back, that back...............and I'm going to lose part of my deposit when they get the cleaning stuff sorted.

Power company badgered me for readings, then when I submitted didn't create a bill.

I feel like saying "Keep the deposit I want done of this". It's just not worth it.

Maggie1929 · **Joined:** Thu Jan 22, 2015 12:27 pm **Posts:** 1691

UKB SO sorry about the hassle that you are having to go through - don't you wish life would just sail along peacefully for a change ? It all sounds a real mess and I feel for you .... hang in there though - you know that you can deal with this okay!!

hugs, Maggie xx

zontar · **Posted:** Wed Jun 24, 2015 4:06 pm

sorry to hear about the hassles UKB. only you know if that deposit is worth all the headaches. chin up, you'll get through.

Snapdragon · **Joined:** Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:45 am **Posts:** 124

Sorry you're having a bad time with your ex-landlord UKB. I think sometimes, like you say, life's to short to lose sleep and be stressed over things like this. You have a lovely life now and a lovely partner so look to the future. I know how frustrating it is losing the deposit. My son just left Uni - we went up to help him move out and spent ages tidying up and cleaning (with his other house mates) and yet the landlord has refused to give back any of their deposits as he claims that the house wasn't left in the same condition as when they moved in three years ago! I was so angry about it (I paid the deposit and was banking on getting it back) but I'm just drawing a line under it. Life's too short :evil:

UKblonde · **Posted:** Thu Jun 25, 2015 7:25 am

Snapdragon wrote:

Sorry you're having a bad time with your ex-landlord UKB. I think sometimes, like you say, life's to short to lose sleep and be stressed over things like this. You have a lovely life now and a lovely partner so look to the future. I know how frustrating it is losing the deposit. My son just left Uni - we went up to help him move out and spent ages tidying up and cleaning (with his other house mates) and yet the landlord has refused to give back any of their deposits as he claims that the house wasn't left in the same condition as when they moved in three years ago! I was so angry about it (I paid the deposit and was banking on getting it back) but I'm just drawing a line under it. Life's too short :evil:

Thanks Snap, I never bank on getting deposits back, but I just want the stuff to do with that place all sorted so I can relax and not have to deal with it.

The house was actually in an almost perpetual state of repair, there was always something going wrong, some drama, even though on the surface it looked really lovely, and was let to me as a 'high standard' property (and lots of people afterwards telling me what a great place it was). If anything else arises I will be reminding them of this.

UKblonde · **Posted:** Thu Jun 25, 2015 7:51 am

Forgot to say thank you for your support.

UKblonde · **Posted:** Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:32 am

I'm having a really bad time at the moment, a relapse - but no booze although I have been tempted. I haven't craved alcohol, I have thought about it because I felt so low but it is not difficult to say no and not drink.

Food has come back.

There have been a combination of factors which have brought me crashing down, one of which was getting behind on my sleep. Sleep is thought to be a strong factor in addiction, and is something that can be brought under control fairly easily, much more easily than other external factors.

The 20% thread also reminded me that I did use a bit of baclofen, low dose, early on in my TSM journey. When I moved house I threw out all my old baclofen, but now I am thinking it might actually be of some help.

I am therefore going to ask, is there anyone here in the UK who has some baclofen, preferably 10mg tablets but 20mg would also be fine, who could post some to me in the next day or two?

It would be most appreciated and I can send funds in a variety of ways.

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