I guess this depends on one's definition of magic. There may be no magic pill but alot of magic has happened in my life thanks to following this method. Lots of relationships that were damaged have come back to life and I have been able to accomplish all kinds of things that I do not believe I would have been able to before. As far as God is concerned well then would that not be God working with me? Or through me? The concept of God and all the surrounding dogma related is a very personal thing and I for one would never have the balls to drag that in here. I find it amusing that someone would. I am a day to day non-etherial type . I am Spiritual, but whether one is religious or not, every doctrine gives people the choice to ultimately choose for themselves. Otherwise you are straying from the real message. Excuse any spelling errors.
Personally I am on board with the rats. They are logical and in a funny "one with the cosmos kind of way" probably more spiritual too.

the rats are saved by god automatically because they are born one with the universe. They have no choice but to be saved. LOL

Fabulous posts! What a great forum.And yes, I too, report, although my numbers are still higher than I wish them to be, my "behaviors" have DRASTICALLY changed for the better. I am so very glad, and I don't care how this is happening. Whether it be God or I be not a rat!

Bob3d, for good or bad, I think like Spock but I express myself like Kirk. Why the Ken Oswald picture? I was thinking of going with George Wendt.

NALTREXONE + DRINKING = CURE

Regards to all.
Tom (mclanet0326).

I think you man Ken Osmond. He played Eddie Haskall in the Leave It to Beaver sitcom in the late 50's and early 60's. My work colleagues have compared my mischievous nature to Eddie Haskall. From Wikipedia: "A weaselly wise guy, Eddie could be relied upon to connive and instigate schemes with his friends—schemes for which they would be in the position of blame, if (and usually when) caught." So I thought that an avatar of Ken Osmond would be appropriate for me.

Bob

bob3d, yes I did mean Ken Osmond.


NALTREXONE + DRINKING = CURE

Regards,
Tom

Pre: 46 – 80+ units
Wk/Units/Craving
1: ...44 .....10
2: .. 40......10..2 AF
3: ...40......9...3 AF
4: ...31......9...4 AF
5: ...20......7...5 AF
6.....21...ongoing

The issue here -- "spirituality" -- is a highly emotional one. I am an atheist who occasionally describes myself as "agnostic," but only because I cling to the one in a billion chance I will see my father again, in some way, shape or form. As an atheist, all of the "God as you understand him" crap of AA quickly drove me away. With that as background, "there is no magic pill" for having a meaningful and fulfilling life, but that to me, is an entirely larger and separate issue from giving up booze's strangle-hold on my life. All of us were driven to alcohol because it made us feel better about something. For me, I'm on the anxious side and a few drinks eliminated that problem. Using booze has been a crutch and has made it easier for me to ignore the causes of my drinking or to have to focus on the "work" involved in getter over my issues without alcohol. There is no "magic pill" to cure any of the factors that led any of us down the path of hazardous drinking. That being said, it sure sounds to me like there is a "magic pill" called Naltrexone that will stop me from craving alcohol. (I don't know yet, I just started.) But that's all I'm asking for, a "magic pill" that will stop the craving and let me live a "normal" life. Once that happens, it will be up to me to deal with all of the factors that led to my drinking in the first place.

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Hi All,
It is funny but I just posted to a friend the other day... I will see if I can find the e-mail and post it here.

Here it is



That expresses my view.
I do consider penicillin a miracle drug as would anyone who lived before its discovery. Prior to penicillin, simple infections killed millions. McKinley's son got a blister on his heel playing football on the Whitehouse lawn and died 14 days later from blood-poisoning. Yes, there are miracle drugs and I consider Naltrexone one of them if the protocol is adhered too.

True, one is still free to drink abusively, even after the addicion is well dimimished. Most of us started out as abusive drinkers prior to becoming addictive drinkers. Large quantities of alcohol can be distructive even when you are no longer addicted. Addicts are not the only ones to hurt themselves with alcohol.

At the party I mentioned above, I had three beers and a Jager-Bomb. I drank the later, just to see what it was like. That was over a 3.5 hour period. I made no desire to "not drink". That was just all I wanted. IOW's - I drank like the "normal" drinker I have become.

SR, thank you so much for this! I'm right behind you, 11 more days to complete month four. My success is not dramatic, and is sporadic. I'm drinking about 2/3 the levels of pre-Sinclair, and my experience of drinking is not as negative as before. I'm more coherent, and in charge. No more hangovers, blackouts, erratic behavior.

Just the past day or so I've noted how I can pour/drink a glass of wine. . .and then not immediately pour another. Today is my birthday (ugh!), and I've had two glasses of wine, over about two hours. An empty glass is at my side. . .and I'm not in any hurry to fill it.

I do notice that I sometimes 'drink through' times when I'm not really craving the alcohol. . .and then get to a point where I overdrink, just out of habit. Did you experience this? If so, did you consciously deal with it, or just let it run its course?

Again, thanks for the post.