argh Cheeto I feel for you, and feel similar!

not sure the bad feelings are to do with the Nal.. but could be I've totally lost the side effects even on 75mg; however I don't get Nal overs either just normal boring yukky hangovers

I feel for you I really do Cheeto. I don't get full blown hangovers but if I drink more than 4 drinks I feel more tired the next day. Hang in there and Nal on

Cheeto - are you going to go up to 75 mg? You might try that for a week or so and see if it makes any difference. I am sorry that things are going slowly for you - but it does for some people. You have the link saying how long it took for people - when you get discourages, go and look at it and see that it does eventually work ! Have faith and hang in there !!

Hugs, Maggie x

Just my update that is not too inspiring, so sorry..
I am in my 24th Week of TSM and no changes other than drinking more:
I am very grateful for TSM and have put all my faith in the science, followed the golden rule to the "T" and supported it all the way with patience. (I will NEVER drink without Nal EVER for any ones info)
I Know the Sinclair Method says in the book it can take from 3-6 months to work and after reading on this board I have learned that it can take up to a year for it to work (which I was prepared for no problem).
I am very happy for so many that it has worked for in days, weeks or months but that is not me and I am in such a horrible world right now that I thought was going to get better..
Now I am very angry, as I have learned I may need to do TSM for 2-3 years for it to work for me????
I am worried about my health and well being that is suffering doing this experiment that I know has worked in days and weeks for so many but for me is it ever going to work?
Sorry if this is not a great posting as I am drinking AGAIN, I am so down, tearful and cannot sleep again without alcohol?
I am very appreciative of all of your very helpful answer to my questions but my question is where are the SCIENTIST'S and help with the SINCLAIR METHOD here when we are in time of need?
I have no other way of dealing with this but going on for years and years and hopefully I will not die before TSM works....
You guys can respond to me but where are the DR's that should be supporting this site is this is the deal!

Oh Cheeto - I am so sorry you are so down and disheartened right now ..... I do not have any words of wisdom - I just feel your pain. Maybe you can do Antabuse to give you a few AF days? Just a thought ..... I know that it seems like forever before it will work - but it WILL! And so what if you DO have to take the Nal for ever ? Or just another couple of years ? Things would not change anyway - so it does no harm to take the Nal anyway.

I was feeling down a week or so ago - and felt discouraged but we just MUST have faith - there was a post written by someone just a few days ago that it took two years to work - but all of a sudden, it DID and they are thrilled !! We too will get there. I know I for one, am prepared to take this for as long as it needs. I am sure that it feels as if you have been doing this for ever but it is hardly 5 months - a mere speck in the grand scheme of things !

As for the Doctors - I was not aware that Doctors were supposed to be manning this site ...... and they would probably just say the same too - follow the golden rule and be patient - hang in there dear soul - you will get there - PM me if you want to vent more .....

Hugs, Maggie xx

Hello Cheeto,

Ill share what I think, I don't want to take away from any of the early responders achievements, but I personally think that a quick response has a lot more to do with psychology than the pill actually working, its like how a new diet works so well. TSM is all about rewiring the brain and that just cant happen in a few weeks. In the end it doesn't matter what the cause of people reducing their intake is, whether its bad side effects to Nal, a honeymoon period, or a thinking the pill is working, for some it happens quickly and great and good for them.

What does this mean? does it mean that it wont work for you? of course not! we see an average of 6 months but that included the people that are cured to my mind in a way not totally related to Nal only (and lucky for them), its just going to take time.

I know what you mean about the doctors, it would be nice to hear from someone that has run these trials or treats patients with Nal, just to hear a 'don't worry stick with it' or a 'I had a patient just like you and now they are fine', we probably wont get that here BUT we do have each other for support.

Whilst my drinking has gone down, its really so slight, I have gone from really huge amounts of booze to fairly huge amounts of booze, do I think the Nal is working? well I cant feel anything happening, but if its a gradual change over a year I wont will I? you don't notice yourself aging and the change to a sensible drinker will be slow.

I have been helping my mind with a book that Guapo suggested by Allen Carr, its very good and helps with your thinking about alcohol.

take care

N

Hi Miss Cheetoh. It must be frustrating, obviously you are making a really good effort.

For me, I was somewhat better with the naltrexone after six months, but by no means in a good place. It occurred to me, that what needed to change, was my attitude towards drinking.

Just taking the naltrexone, and drinking, was not working, as I could drink past the temporary sleepiness etc., and be right back where I started.

Ultimately, success involved regarding alcohol in an entirely different way. Not by abusing or becoming intoxicated, as it accomplishes nothing. It's worth noting again, that the longer you are are free of daily and excessive drinking, the less you'll want to do it.

I see where NAL worked after several years with people. Is it realistic to wait that long?

When you acheive control, what you come to realize is, that since drinking doesn't really give any real benefits, you are okay with that. It goes far beyond taking NAL, because at that point, you really don't want to drink anyway, so you're not taking naltrexone.

It may sound like a cliche to say that ways to deal with urges, cravings, and habits help, but they really do. It becomes clear that most of the behavior was habits, urges and cravings ! Just taking the pill does nothing to deal with any of that.

Behavior can be changed, and that's what will lead to freedom.

Wise words Guapo !!!!

Hugs, Maggie x

Cheeto, my heart goes out to you, you sound in such a desperate place, and you have and are trying so hard.

I am wondering if perhaps there is something else you could do to get some AF time in. I also know that 3-6 months is on the ambitious side. It is often 6-12 months.

I truly hope there is some change for you very similar soon.

Hi Cheeto!

First of all you are not going to die. Everyone has a different experience with TSM. I'm sorry you are going through a hard time. It is true life stress can make this whole process much more difficult. The most important thing is for you to hang on and not let go. I have faith it will work for you. Even adding one or two AF days is possible. You can do it and I know you can. Much love and support. If you want to PM me and do an AF day together I'm all in! We can support each other