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 Post subject: Re: Cheeto's Progress
PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 10:05 am 
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I agree with what everyone is saying about staying compliant and tracking the drinks. It seems everyone has a different and unique progression rate. Hang in there!! :)

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Pre Naltrexone: 70 a week/10 a day=280 a month
Week 1-4: 193
Week 5-8: 157
Week 9-12: 150
Week 13-16: 136
Week 17-20: 122
Week 21-24: 121
Week 25-28: 112
Week 29-32: 52
Week 33-35: 26, 23, 26


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 Post subject: Re: Cheeto's Progress
PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:04 am 
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Well it will be 17 weeks on TSM tomorrow. My update has not changed as I am drinking way too much every day. The nights are the worst as I have told you all I have hot flashes with going through menopause but the alcohol is making them occur more and more throughout the night. My nights are sheer hell with feeling so hot and sweaty along with interrupted sleep, anxiousness and feelings of dread and am I going to get Cancer or just die soon. I am so preoccupied with drinking, thinking about drinking or feeling sick from drinking I am isolating myself and not contacting my family and friends back home and I feel like such a bad mother, daughter, sister and friend right now.
My concentration is horrible and I seem to be doing 3 things at once with my confusion. It's the same old thing every day as I wake up saying I will take an AF day or watch my drinks but that all seems to go to hell with my reasoning the more I take Nal+Drink the faster TSM will work for me. I really want an AF day to get my head straight and I know we should not force or white knuckle AF days but for my health and sanity I know I need to force them.
I am reading every day how others are getting results in days or weeks and that just makes me feel like when or if TSM is going to work for me? Thank You all for your support and badger for the post viewtopic.php?f=19&t=2442 to show me that many others took an average of weeks to cure or regained control is 29.6 weeks with a range of 8 to 100 weeks (I am not liking the 100 weeks note).With the average of the remaining members was 28 weeks so that would mean HOPEFULLY I can see results in another 11 weeks or so which would take me somewhere at the end of April 2015??? My birthday is April 11th so what a Birthday gift that would be to me, I would be forever grateful for TSM. My friends and family are sceptical of TSM so along with me declaring on The Cured List I really want to show them all that this really does work.
Sorry for the negative post as I know I just need patience for TSM to work but sometimes it is just so hard for me and I can relate to others here that are in the same boat as me.
OK guys hang in there with me and I know we can do it, support is so helpful here so Thank You all!
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 Post subject: Re: Cheeto's Progress
PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:35 am 
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Cheeto, I'm sorry that you're having such a rough time of it. Have you tried imposing time between drinks? I find that i CAN "drink through" the nal if I drink too fast, but if I slow down and switch to diet ginger beer or lemon and tonic water I lose interest and the nal does it's thing on a daily basis. Anyway I hope you find something that helps, it's hard when you can't sleep well. The only other thing I can think of to suggest is exercise. That helps me a lot, both to drink less and sleep better.


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 Post subject: Re: Cheeto's Progress
PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:55 am 
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hi Cheeto,

sorry that you're struggling & not getting the results you want (yet)

I know that whilst we're on TSM we need to drink to achieve extinction, but be don't necessarily have to drink *lots*. are you able to limit the amount you have when you do drink? when I'm being mindful - which admittedly isn't every time - I buy what I'm going to drink - a bottle of wine, say - & don't have anything else in the house. if I start late enough that I can't go out to buy more, then I'm generally content with what I have in. if, however, I'd had more in the house, I would probably have continued drinking, just because it was there

if you think you'd benefit from an AF or light consumption day to get your head straight, then it's probably worth doing. what you lose in a lost (not really lost, but deferred) extinction day you'll more than make up for in clearer thinking, mindfulness, etc.

hang in there & keep the faith. there's a very good chance that TSM will work for you, but as you know, it does take time ...

all the best

-badger

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 Post subject: Re: Cheeto's Progress
PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:13 am 
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Thanks all41 I do power walk just about every day and if not it is quite a walk with my back pack chair down to the beach and back every day. Since I am out a lot while here in Mexico I am too cheap to buy water or non-alcoholic drinks as they are just about as expensive as a beer, drink etc but yes I have just got to drink non-alcoholic drinks in between.

Badger if I could limit my drinks then I wouldn't have this problem. I always have good intentions but then my brain goes out the window with rationalizing. The big problem is that I am out a lot drinking with all the other vacationers here in Mexico and it is not a question of just having a bottle of wine in the house like when I am at home. My friends are not alcoholics but they can drink quite a bit and never get hangovers. Mine may part of the Nalovers so who knows?
Nal+Drink+Patience=Cured!!!
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 Post subject: Re: Cheeto's Progress
PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:38 am 
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Cheeto I know I am still relatively new at this but I think what the other members are saying about everyone having their own timeline is true. Some people seem to see quicker results and some it takes quite a bit longer. I was drinking double of what you are drinking now when I started and now I am getting close to your level. But who knows? Maybe I'll be stuck in the 30 range for while? Either way hang in there and know you are doing the right thing by pushing on and still being compliant. :)

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USA standard drinks:
Pre Naltrexone: 70 a week/10 a day=280 a month
Week 1-4: 193
Week 5-8: 157
Week 9-12: 150
Week 13-16: 136
Week 17-20: 122
Week 21-24: 121
Week 25-28: 112
Week 29-32: 52
Week 33-35: 26, 23, 26


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 Post subject: Re: Cheeto's Progress
PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 2:54 pm 
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Hugs.....

I am there with you.. frustrated but gonna carry on

I can really get the waking up in the morning and promising myself an AF day and then at maybe 2pm its out of the window.. and hating myself for having no self control.... tonight I told myself I need to drink for the extinction!! argh

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 Post subject: Re: Cheeto's Progress
PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 6:14 pm 
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Cheeto - I almost cried when I saw your post - I am feeling so bad today too! I used to have night sweats for the change - but then all that finished and then I started getting night sweats with AL - and am still getting them even though I am only having 3 drinks some days and finish those three by 3 or 4 in the afternoon ! I am feeling SO grumpy and tearful today - the ironic thing is though that I had had two drinks, poured a third, drank some of it, and then stopped to do something and found that I could not go back to that drink - it has just been poured down the sink! I understand where the others are coming from saying to try and pace yourself - I find if I just keep drinking then I can drink over the Nal - but if I actually listen to my body - or let a little time go by inbetween drinks, then I do not want to drink any more - it is as if my body has to catch up with the Nal.

The way that I look at it is that we did not get to this place overnight and are not going to cure it overnight - plus what is the option? SO, just keep taking the Nal - try and be more aware of it and any feelings with it - no matter where you are in two or three months time, you may as well keep going with it - I know that I feel as if I am plodding along with it but am way behind you so know how you must be feeling - BUT you will get there - allow it to happen!!
Hang in there - hope that you feel better tomorrow - and me too !!

Hugs, Maggie xx

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Month 12: 4 drinks TOTAL (Dec '15)
13: 2 drinks (nearly) for Jan '16 !!!
None since Jan '16 I feel that I can safely say that I am cured!


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 Post subject: Re: Cheeto's Progress
PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 6:17 pm 
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nigelr wrote:
Hugs.....

I am there with you.. frustrated but gonna carry on

I can really get the waking up in the morning and promising myself an AF day and then at maybe 2pm its out of the window.. and hating myself for having no self control.... tonight I told myself I need to drink for the extinction!! argh


Nigel - laughed at you telling yourself that you needed to drink for the extinction - but understand it ! I am hoping for some AF days too but so far can not see that happen - Badger said that he had an AF day because he was doing something else and just didn't even think of a drink - I can never imagine that happening to me !

Like everyone says - just hang in there and let the Nal do it's thing,

hugs, Maggie

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Pre Nal 40-45 wk


Month 12: 4 drinks TOTAL (Dec '15)
13: 2 drinks (nearly) for Jan '16 !!!
None since Jan '16 I feel that I can safely say that I am cured!


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 Post subject: Re: Cheeto's Progress
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 7:24 am 
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Thank You Angelgirl, Nigelr & Maggie.
Angelgirl, I know I just need patience for the science to work as you and others say we all have our own timelines.
Nigelr,I never did get that AF day yesterday but I ever waiver from the GR.
Maggi,I totally have to get this pacing thing down and become more mindful. I will not give up doing TSM for as long as it takes, just wanting to have my amount of rinks to go down.
Will just have to let Nal do it's thang!
Nal On!


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