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 Post subject: Re: thistime's progress
PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:34 pm 
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BRILLIANT.. I haven't been posting, but have been reading and what can I say wow well done

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 Post subject: Re: thistime's progress
PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 11:25 am 
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thistime2014 wrote:
Week 15

I had Sunday until Wednesday AF days then had three drinks on Thursday that tasted disgusting. Friday and Saturday we were visiting my Son at university and I had four UK pub drinks, these are imperial pints of 20 fluid oz. It's going to be interesting to see if I can switch between a few moderate nights of drinking to AF days for the most part.

I'm back AF tonight without any cravings.

Started 7 October 2014

Pre TSM = 70+ USA units
Week 1. 48
Week 2. 45 (1AF day)
Week 3. 50
Week 4. 54
Week 5. 56
Week 6. 56
Week 7. 60
Week 8. 58
Week 9. 58
Week 10. 50
Week 11. 48
Week 12. 55
Week 13. 50
Week 14. 03.5 (6 AF days)
Week 15. 20 (4 AF days)


Wow this was beautifully amazing. It's really also funny when you go from being a 'drinker' to being a person who doesn't find alcohol pleasant.

I notice you don't give yourself much credit. I think you underestimate what you have done, you have taken the pill each time you drank and stuck it out - not many people do that.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 3:10 pm 
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Thank you, you are very kind, it means a lot when it comes from someone who has already found their way out.

Thanks

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 Post subject: Re: thistime's progress
PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:19 pm 
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No problem I also think it takes self-awareness to realise you don't want to neck the same amount you have gotten used to, and recognise that choice.

We aren't rats, we are individual humans!

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 Post subject: Re: thistime's progress
PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:35 am 
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thistime2014 wrote:
Week 14

I never thought that I would be writing this post. Since I started my TSM journey on the 7th October 2014 I have continued to drink, with the exception of one white knuckle AF day early on I continued to drink as before albeit at reduced levels due to effect of the nalmefene.

I made no effort and resigned myself to my half life due to the total lack of any willpower what so ever.

In the beginning, whilst the experience with drinking was different. It was possible to gain enough out of it to drink every night and mostly just end up exhausted because the alcohol would induce tiredness before I could drink to excess, however mostly I still enjoyed my daily drinking routine and several weeks in I kind of adjusted to this new relationship with alcohol and started to really question wether TSM was working for me.

Encouraged by those that had gone before I continued, not least because I had no other place to go but back to before I started.

At this stage, since only one week has past I am cautious and even concerned to be too celebratory. For obvious reasons. However if this is a high phase and I dip down on the roller coaster later on so be it, I'm only telling it as it is and if this turns bad again I will just continue I guess.

Anyway back to the here and now, Last Saturday was a disaster in the sense that drink tasted awful and it was just impossible to drink. Sunday I was a different person, like a switch had been thrown. I can only describe it like every receptor in my brain had finally been smothered by the Nalmefene. There was no room for a choice by me, no more I guess than a seven year old kid would walk to the fridge one day and crave a ice cold beer that's on the top shelf. No more than I could crave a ice cold can of coke.
I like the occasional coke but I have never drank two back to back. I've certainly never had uncontrollable thoughts about coke.

So Monday the same, not exactly indifference but just the thought of alcohol was unappealing. This continued until I tried to see what would happen on Thursday evening. To be honest by about five I had taken my nalmefene and I was pacing for the hour, I was kind of split; it was the devil on one shoulder and the angel on the other.

However as I've said over and over again "my zero willpower" means angel has no chance.

I opened first ice cold can at 17:50 and looked at it for ten minutes, it might as well been ice cold water, no buzz no AAAaaaa no nothing, Had another much slower than the 1st and then eat, although my appetite had been diminished by the two beers so that was also a disappointment. Opened a third around 19:30 and poured it away by eight, half full. Had a very enjoyable hot chocolate at nine.

So last night was Friday and I was indifferent. I'll say not really disgusted at the thought of drinking as in the early part of the week, just happy not drinking I guess.

There are a few of us on the journey right now and hopefully for each of you my experience gives some hope, what has happened to me this week is pure science, if it's happening to me then it's just a matter of time before you reach this point.

It maybe after a few pills that some have had the good fortune before TSM kicks in or as seems to be the case with most folk, it takes much longer. The science works, what we do with the results is up to us individually, abstain the moment indifference appears, try to drink through the indifference or just drink on the odd occassion. I think in the early days I will from time time take nal and try to moderate. If I suffer a set back, I've enjoyed this week enough to seriously walk away from the drink altogether.


I LOVED this post! It was so encouraging for me ..... I read this thread from the beginning, skipped some of the middle then read the last few pages. This is the sort of post that makes me think that the Nal CAN work!! I felt exactly as TT did at the beginning - on going into the 4th week, I too am drinking less but am still drinking every night - TT's was drinking about 6 I think - I am having 4 most nights with the odd 5, or 3 thrown in too!

I cannot imagine what it must feel like to have that indifference, but will plod on - I bought a thing for my key ring yesterday and put a couple of pills in it so I always have them with me although so far I have always remembered to take it an hour before drinking - and have white knuckled a couple of times but by the time the hour is up, am happy to let the hour go to longer than that!

I love that people are posting things like this - it really does help -

Hugs, Maggie

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 Post subject: Re: thistime's progress
PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 4:29 am 
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Week 17


Before TSM, I was mostly a stay at home drinker, on occasions I would plan to have a good night drinking at home. Light the open fire, get a good film in and cook a great dinner. Then drink until I slowly got drowsy and fell asleep.

In reality of course, I would always start drinking too early, be unable to keep focus on the movie, not really enjoy the great dinner because of the booze. And end up passing out on the sofa after my wife had already gone to bed.

No matter how many times I planned a good night in with acohol as the centre piece, it never really worked out the way I hoped.

Last Thursday I got it in my head that since I've been drinking so much less why shouldn't I have a great night (a kind of blow out as it use to be). Well I managed two cans that's about 2.5 USA units and I just couldn't manage another drop. However I enjoyed my dinner and got to see the end of the film. I even went to bed the same time as my wife. The important thing is it wasn't an effort on my part, alcohol has just lost its allure.

Apart from Thursday I've had a clear week, most days I'm thinking less and less about drinking and I'm honestly looking forward to the AF days more and more.

Anyone reading this who's ahead of me understands the absolute astounding difference that has happend to me. Anyone who is following me has every reason to be excited about what awaits them.

The legacy that's with me now is the adjustment from drinking every night to being a normal person with so much more time to fill everyday, 7 days a week.

If I'm honest I can understand how folk can fall backwards even after TSM has began to show amazing results. The adjustment shouldn't be under estimated. I guess I'm just very lucky that this method doesn't need willpower because in these early days if I could have a great session I probably would but for me as least it just hasn't happened that way. As I've already said I can no longer drink alcohol in any quantity than I could warm McDonnells milk shakes.

Started 7 October 2014

Pre TSM = 70+ USA units
Week 1. 48
Week 2. 45 (1AF day)
Week 3. 50
Week 4. 54
Week 5. 56
Week 6. 56
Week 7. 60
Week 8. 58
Week 9. 58
Week 10. 50
Week 11. 48
Week 12. 55
Week 13. 50
Week 14. 03.5 (6 AF days)
Week 15. 20 (4 AF days)
Week 16. 11 (5 AF days)
Week 17. 02.5 (6 AF days)


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:05 am 
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I'm so glad things are going well for you TT. I definitely feel like I'm making progress & it's always encouraging to hear from someone who's a little ahead of me & doing well

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As I've already said I can longer drink alcohol in any quantity than I could warm McDonnells milk shakes


this made me laugh :) I guess this is how normal people think about AL

all the best

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 Post subject: Re: thistime's progress
PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:28 am 
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Hey there - yes your comment about the milk shakes made me laugh too - and I am beginning to understand now about the just not wanting AL - yesterday I had had 3, poured a 4th and ended up tipping it away - I just could not bring myself to drink it ! My head DID want it but my body did not. It is going to be quite an adjustment to find stuff to fill the time .... I ended up baking !! Made some lemon butterfly cakes which were delicious !!

Hugs, Maggie xx

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 Post subject: Re: thistime's progress
PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 11:57 am 
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thistime2014 wrote:
Before TSM, I was mostly a stay at home drinker, on occasions I would plan to have a good night drinking at home. Light the open fire, get a good film in and cook a great dinner. Then drink until I slowly got drowsy and fell asleep.

In reality of course, I would always start drinking too early, be unable to keep focus on the movie, not really enjoy the great dinner because of the booze. And end up passing out on the sofa after my wife had already gone to bed.

No matter how many times I planned a good night in with acohol as the centre piece, it never really worked out the way I hoped.


Boy can I relate to that thistime! I am still on that path but am hoping to get to where you are sooner than later...


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Applause! Well done and ty for documenting you journey tt. Stay the course and experience it for yourself if you haven't yet. Good odds a new life awaits you with TSM.


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