I was struck by the central idea as well. We've often spoken here of how giving up alcohol can sound like giving up a long-time friend, and how we gradually realize alcohol's more of a frenemy than a true friend.

It's amazing just how similar we all are. I see myself in all your responses. All41 I think that's a great start for your boys. They need to realize how special there relationship is. Cheeto, I'm really a lot like you in that I'm shy and some what withdrawn. Stay the course, it will kick in and your life will change.

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