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 Post subject: Re: Something has got to change
PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:00 pm 
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By the way person I spoke to last night has confirmed Ice Cream as being a substance which definitely brings on an endorphin response - which also goes with our own observations!
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Wow. I've just spent the past couple of hours (I have quite a bit of time on my hands these days) reading this entire topic.

Generic, what an illuminating ride you've had. I'm so sorry for your miscarriages; the last one so, so traumatic. Your bravery in chronicling your overall very successful experience has given me hope that Nal may be the solution that works for me, as well. Finally. And as others have noted, your writing is superb - you may have the makings of a novel here. Or a series of articles in Esquire. Seriously. So please keep on posting.

I'm a bit embarrassed now with my 'writeratlarge' member name, but I've used it for so long. I'm really just a professional word whore, aka advertising/marketing copywriter/editor. But fortunate that I can make a living writing catalog or web descriptions that enable companies to sell their silly clothes or motorcycles or moisturizers or watches or whatever. Really, I guess you could say I'm saving the world, one skirt at a time. That's how meaningful my writing is. You all don't know me yet so I'll just say in case it doesn't come across, that's me being self-deprecating. But actually this a pretty educated, intelligent lot we have here, so that prolly didn't need saying. Besides, akaMonique, one of my other monikers, sounds a little too whore-whore. But I digress.

I also wanted to thank you for mentioning where you live; I lived in The City for five pretty wild years in the mid-eighties. First in Cow Hollow (Union St @ Steiner), where one night I barely remember being at Boz Skaggs house doing copious amounts of cocaine. Riding my motorcycle through SoMa in the wee hours, sunglasses at night, all black leather and blonde hair flying, trying to create a cool persona to mask how lost I was already. I also lived in Noe Valley just above Castro and had many, many wonderful gay friends. Even went to my very first AA meeting in SF, 20-some years ago. I'll save what drove me to that first meeting for another topic...

What a long, strange trip it's been.

So here I am, in week 3. My pre-TSM was 2-3 bottles of wine every day. My immediate goal is single-digit days, and this week that's where I'm headed, 2 9-unit days so far. The next goal, 5 units per day or less. Then I'll start working on AF days.

I liked what you wrote recently about intentionally leaving that last glass in the wine bottle. I'll keep that one in mind.

Oh, by the way, I do see a Dr., let's call him Dr. W. He's a GP as well as the lead psychologist at a counseling clinic (mostly for addiction) up here in the middle of nowhere Idaho. I was prescribed Naltexone by a different Dr. years ago and that didn't affect my ability to get new insurance when I changed jobs one bit. It didn't work to curb my drinking then because that Dr. had mistakenly prescribed it to be used only when I was sober and at that time I had no awareness of TSM.

It was Dr. W's suggestion, well, one of his suggestions, the other being traditional detox/withdrawal/abstinence, that I try Naltrexone and TSM. I downloaded and read the book the following day. And my current insurance covered the Rx when I used my card at the pharmacy, no problems there. Many people don't feel the need to include a Dr. in their treatment and I respect whatever works for every unique situation. For me it helps keep me accountable and perhaps more mindfull of tracking (I'm very strict on that and taking my Nal per the protocol). I'm also under his care for acute depression so it makes sense for him to be in the loop on my total co-occuring disorders package.

Sorry, I didn't mean for this to go on and on.

A note to UKBlonde, prior to my relapse 6 weeks ago, I had 14 months sober. But not very healthy sober. I became best friends with Hagen Daaz, to the tune of a pint a night! The sugar cravings were almost every bit as compelling as alcohol. I also got addicted to eBay shopping, though at least I turned that into a side business, promptly reselling my endorphin-fueled auction wins. With my recent depression nose-dive and the Naltrexone, I have barely any appetite, and have finally started exercising again. So am hopeful that once the units go down, the lbs. will, too. Also, where is the Don't Panic thread you mentioned, if you don't mind saying? Or you can pm me.

Anyway, I'm glad to be here and thank all of you for your frank disclosures. Keep them coming!

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 Post subject: Re: Something has got to change
PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:20 pm 
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Hi everyone!

Long time no see. Sorry I haven't been around, but I don't often think about Nal, other than just the fact that I always have to take it, and always have to wait before I drink. Just more of the same to report from me, which is to say:

1. My life is fundamentally different than it was before I started taking Nal. Work is better. I am trying to start a biotech company now as a side project, something I never would have imagined in the past. I now believe in myself and spend my time looking forward rather than looking back in regret.

2. The pill isn't perfect. Sometimes it can get away from me and I end up super wankered. My birthday was kind of a ****-show that I ended up having to make a lot of apologies for. The most common ways to lose control now are:
a. drinking with a hangover - the alcohol soothes the hangover and goes down mindlessly
b. backdoor violations of the golden rule. If I have some beers at 2pm on a Sunday with football, and then carry this on into the night, I can be drinking unprotected. I kinda hate football season sometimes.
c. drinking many days in a week. Even without enough to be hung over, I do WAY better when I go AF at least 4 days a week, preferably 5.
Another thing that isn't perfect about the pill is that I still pretty much never have just one glass of wine. If I'm going to open a bottle, I'm going to finish it. That's not usually enough to cause any disasters, but it isn't like I'm a normal person either.

3. Hangovers now bug the **** out of me. They used to be a way of life, but now that they are more sporadic, it really feels like a complete waste of my precious time here on earth. I'd love to get to a point where I am never hung over, but I am not there yet. Today, in fact, I am feeling pretty sh*tty after Sunday Funday yesterday. I'll be minimally productive at work, which sucks. The kicker is that I really don't want to get drunk last night. My wife asked me to meet her and a friend for cocktails after the game, and of course I can't just drink water. I've gotta work on that... I need to learn to be okay having something non-alcoholic at a bar.

Anyway, thanks as always for listening y'all. Keep up the good work everyone

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 Post subject: Re: Something has got to change
PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:08 pm 
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That sounds like a huge improvement! Congratulations.

I'm starting to think that, for some of us, alcohol is just too large in our minds. It's too much a part of life. This is psychological rather than physiological, and would have to be addressed separately. Could that be what's going on with you?

Either way, your life sounds so much better. Really, when was the last time you woke up in a puddle of your own pee? Just getting away from that sounds like a tremendous improvement that would make your entire life better.

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 Post subject: Re: Something has got to change
PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:41 pm 
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Thanks for the reassurance Mel. If I were to guess, I'd say that you are 100 percent correct. Alcohol has been part of my routine for so long, that getting rid of it is proving trickier than just taking a pill. That's actually fine with me: the pill has given me hope that I can win this fight.

And you have no idea what a difference it has made in my self worth, my relationship with my wife, and my quality of life to not be a G-D 35 year old bed wetter. Life changing.

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 Post subject: Re: Something has got to change
PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:14 pm 
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My life is fundamentally different than it was before I started taking Nal

Congrats Generic sounds like you are making great progress good luck with TSM and also the biotech company.

All the best , J.


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 Post subject: Re: Something has got to change
PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:14 am 
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My life is also fundamentally different. Even though I hadn't yet slid back to the bedwetting point, things were getting bad.

Hooray for TSM! :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Something has got to change
PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:56 am 
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Always good to hear from you Generic.

Sorta the same old same old for me. Still fighting the weekday afternoon urges. Good thing is stopping early on those week days.

I know what you mean, in regards to football season.

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 Post subject: Re: Something has got to change
PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:54 pm 
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Howdy all. Great to hear from all my old friends. In just a few months I will be 2 years on nal, and as I have said before, I believe it has saved my life.

Todays random thoughts:

I wrote a "cured" post at one point. While I don't take it back, I've learned a lot since then. I am not cured, I am in remission. Nal blocks my endorphin response, and that allows me to control my drinking, and even when it gets a little out of control, it's usually only a little. Before, once the little will I had was exhausted, I was guaranteed a heavy blackout drinking session.

I, personally, was ALWAYS and alcoholic. The first time I got drunk, at 15, I drank a glass of King Cobra malt liquor, and knew that I immediately needed more. The "rush" that I experience is as annoying as it is pleasurable, because from the moment I start, I am not satisfied unless I am actually drinking something right at that moment. As the night goes on, just drinking isn't enough to quiet the beast, I have to gulp wine, or pour ever taller glasses of whiskey. Then I have to hit the afterburners with at least a half a pack of cigarettes. Thank science, naltrexone has made that go away.

What I have thinking about most these days is that while I drink less, I notice my drinking problems more. I am worried about my health in a way that I never was during my drunk days. Now that I have been given the steering wheel back, I am worried about where I am driving this thing. Part of me wants to go completely sober, but I know that isn't in the cards at this time. Too many of the genuinely positive things in my life seem to happen with a glass of wine in my hand. So for now, I guess, I will redouble my efforts to lower my octane... Stick to only beer most of the time, and try to grab a soda here and there.

Anyway, happy holidays to all of my fellow nalstronauts. Best of luck at your company parties, and on NYE. I am going to Vegas for NYE this year, so, uh, wish me luck ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Something has got to change
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Thanks for checking in, Generic. As a Nal newbie it is great to read your perspective.

Cheers,
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 Post subject: Re: Something has got to change
PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:40 pm 
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Happy New Year my fellow sots!

I write to you today with really nothing but good news (read shameless bragging) to report.

New Year's Eve has always been a challenge for me. Traditionally, by the time my bow tie is tied, I am pretty lit up, and remembering the actual count down is a losing bet.

This year, I had the added level of challenge that I am in Las Vegas, the city that kills us serious booze hounds.

But today, January 1st, I write to you with a clear mind and only a minimal hangover. I followed the golden rule, and my "silver rule." My silver rule is that when there is any danger of an ugly night, I start with Miller Lite and do my best to never increase the octane of my drinks.

Even on nal, I've had some ugly nights with whisky and even wine. I just love them so much that I can eventually find myself in an ugly state. Not like in the old days, but not at all like what I want from myself.

Last night we were hanging with some great friends from the bad old days. Friends who have seen me at my worst. Friends who have forgiven more than I think I could... When I confessed to them that I was on a new treatment for my debilitating alcoholism, they were absolutely, completely unsurprised. After only 48hours of time together, they both knew that something was fundamentally different. I suppose the fact that I didn't grope or proposition anyone was probably a pretty easy to interpret sign.

So there it is folks. I know we are all very different in the severity of our alcoholism and what we are looking for from this pill, but it looks like even NYE in vegas can't hurt me when I have my nal and I stay away from the higher octane sauce.

Happy 2014 everyone! May it bring you everything you could wish for!!

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