I started TSM in October and feel like I'm just about cured. I now have 5 drinks per session down from 12 plus. When I can drink 3 per session and not want anymore I will call myself cured. Naltrexone has worked wonders for me. This little pill has completely changed my life! This process really does work.

I'd just like to point out that the members of this forum are NOT all from or in the USA, I'd guess that at least half are not.

Second, the Finland stats come from controlled clinical trials. There are doctors and psychologists following the participants. Everything is monitored and recorded. It's just not realistic to compare the stats from Finland with what is happening on this forum.

Here on the TSM forum, most people are self-medicating, many are getting their Nal from unverified, uncontrolled sources. It's not even clear if everyone is getting real Naltrexone!
None of us are getting the behavioural coaching the Finland trial participants received.

We do not know what other medications the members of this forum are taking and how those other meds are interacting with Naltrexone.

There is no control over how people on this forum are following TSM, not everyone is taking 50mg 1 hour before drinking, some are taking 100 mg, some 2X50mg over 24 hours, some 25mg, some even 12.5 mg etc... etc...

We have no way of knowing how many members of this forum actually follow(ed) TSM. Some people are here for their spouses/friends, some became members and never posted. Some people only become members to post once that they had been reading the forum and were cured. Others signed up, posted once but never again. Some people have several usernames.

We have no way of knowing how many members even tried TSM, if they just took it once, for a week, a month, if they took it every other Tuesday, and any and every variant possible.

I could go on and on.

An internet forum is not a controlled environment. There is no way that one can keep reliable statistics on an internet forum.

Curi

Yes I did, several times.

I would also like to point out that one can hardly draw Virgil's conclusions from a website where people may join to read and never return.

You are making far too many assumptions that would never pass scientific rigor: everyone who signs up for the website will practice TSM; everyone who practices TSM will continue to visit the website; those who eventually consider themselves cured will contact an admin to be added to the list; those who contact an admin will be successful in being added to the list.

A better question might be: what is the percentage of people who sign on who actually follow the protocol, and what percentage of that group actually is able to have their names added to the list?

As you can see, these two groups will doubtless be very dissimilar to the approximately 80% described by a controlled scientific study.

Only way to tell would be to do a controlled trial, but that's also not representative either.

A lot of people join then don't bother to come back, or might not bother to report their successes. Some might not follow the protocol exactly, many stop practicing TSM but many who do report amazing success. We also only have each individual's word for it for whatever they report.

TSM is a solitary thing which merely requires you take a pill 1 hour before you drink, but some willpower and other techniques are required to get to that cured point so it's not quite as simple as taking a pill and sitting back.

I'm another cured person who is not on the list.

Done,
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Diver