EL, I definitely agree with you. If you're in a relationship with someone that refuses to get help then I believe that it is appropriate to leave that person. Unfortunately, many people advocate leaving an alcoholic even if they are actively trying to get better. That's what happened to me and as you can probably tell, I'm still bitter about it.

Stoked, that's a good idea about the bumper stickers, but the initials might be too vague. I did a google search for "TSM" and a bunch of companies came up first. Maybe as TSM becomes more widespread, "The Sinclair Method" will move up in search engine rankings.

Hey, Tambo, for what it's worth, I thought your post was perfectly acceptable, you did nothing wrong, all you did was share your experience and give some information, Abitbroken completely overreacted, probably because you touched on a sensitive point with her, I noticed that she used a LOT of AA speak...

Coming back to promoting and publicising TMS, there is something I just don't understand, where is Dr. Sinclair and Dr. E? why do they never participate on this forum?

Curi

Dr. Sinclair has moved on to researching other uses for naltrexone, like eating disorders. I'm pretty sure in his mind TSM has been proven beyond reasonable doubt. He resides in Finland where the government is now giving out naltrexone freely. At least that's my understanding. So he probably feels his work with alcohol is done. That being said, we know it's a long way from done in this country, not to mention virtually everywhere else. Not sure about Dr. E. I remember reading/hearing somewhere that he's a private person and is fearful of public speaking, which may put a damper on some of his activities and getting the word out. But that's just a guess on my part.

Cheers, Nick.

I wonder if TSM is known on other Alcoholism forums? I just Googled "Alcoholism forum" there are so many forums! I wonder if it would be worth "spamming" these forums, or at least the major ones. I'm thinking something along the lines of posting a pre-agreed (by TSM members) introductory text, with a link to TSM in the signature? Or perhaps participating in a discussion and bringing up TSM ?

Has anyone ever done anything like that before?

Curi

Dr E does pop into this site from time to time, I dont know how often. I myself pm'ed him a few weeks back to thank him for the changes that tsm has brought to my life and I received a reply from him within a day or 2.

There have been numerous TSM discussions on other boards. We basically got black-balled by "Soberrecovery" because we are not for abstinence only. There are numerous TSM threads on My Way Out. We've had a lot of interaction with other sites, as well. And most sites will not let you post a link to another site. And the sites that are about AA and "recovery" welcome us like a case of herpes, almost without exception. We are a huge threat to their existence and their profit margin.

LOL, I don't doubt for a second that TSM wouldn't be welcome by site administrators and ardent AAers but I was thinking more along the lines of just getting word out about TSM. I imagine all of these forums have just as miserable a success rate as AA, and I also imagine the vocal minority will knee-jerk, like that article the other day, but there might be a silent group of people who call in here to see for themselves and who might gain control over their drinking ...

For example, if I were to take it upon myself to create a user name on lots of fora and write about how TSM worked for me and start a discussion about it, who could stop me? I would personally avoid the word "cured" it's too emotional and debatable, but I could simply state the scientific principal behind TSM and how it worked for me, how long I took to gain control, the ups and downs etc... a sort of testimony without arguing with forum members, just stating the facts as they are for me (well, obviously not me, me, but I think you see what I mean).

Maybe one of the forum members is a statistician who could go through the TMS threads and give us this site's success rate, maybe a chemist might happen by and debate the TSM principal, maybe a psychiatrist might pop in and tell us everyone is experiencing placebo, perhaps a theologian will tell us that TSM is a Higher Power... Surely any kind of attention is good?

Like Tambo's post on that other forum, he got the information out there but didn't wrangle with the natives

It's a great question -- how do we get the word out that TSM works? Personally, I haven't figured it out yet. My assumption and hope have been that this site will grow and grow as will the "cured/regained control list." At some point a critical mass will develop where the word will get out, one way or another. Either that, or a few truly talented individuals who are more industrious than me, will figure out how to spread the news. Or, in this celebrity-driven culture, if just one Hollywood star regained control by TSM, the method would be accepted world-wide almost instantaneously. I wish Mel Gibson or some other Hollywood boozer would stumble upon this site.

I only have so much energy. I have consciously made the decision to help people who come here, as opposed to trying persuade doubters that TSM works. For now, anyways. I really believe that within my lifetime, TSM will be accepted across the country (and world) as the preeminent treatment choice for alcohol abuse and that we are the true pioneers of the method. This board will be required reading for addiction specialists around the world. I sure hope so anyway. It's SO frustrating knowing that there is a "cure for cancer" right here on this board and yet no one seems to take notice of it.

Nick, you do so much here already!, anyway, it would be way too much for just one person, I was thinking about a group effort, say X members post on Y sites, if people thought it was a worthwhile thing to do, it's just a thought.

I completely understand your frustration. I wonder though, if even a drunk celeb would cut it... nobody trusts an alcoholic... I suspect TSM needs a suit or a white coat (respectability) a marketing guru and a few millions thrown at it.

Curi

Oh, I didn't mean to imply that I thought you were implying I should do more to promote TSM. I was just thinking out loud. I am very frustrated by the fact this miracle treatment is here, yet virtually no one knows about it.

I agree, it's going to take many, many angles for TSM to gain acceptance.