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 Post subject: Re: Squirrel - started Cinco de Mayo 2011!!!
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 10:02 am 
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Hey squirrel - I'm experiencing much the same on my start. I would have been pounding beers early on Sat as I got outside for a beautiful day working around the house and in the garage (TRIPLE TRIGGER!!), but just wasn't as motivated. Window on the future...great prospects...

I am having sleep weirdness too, although not up quite as often as you. Normally I have crazy lucid dreams if I make it through 2 days AF on the second night sleep. Sleeping drunk is denying the REM sleep I think...not even really deep enough for that, and the day after for recovery sleep seems like super deep delta non-rem coma sleep for me, but the next night would be like freakin' outer limits episodes. I started to get that last night on the nal, although a little foggier. I've always been able to experience my dreams like movies, so I don't really get nightmares, but last night was definitely some b-horror stuff going on! Good luck this week.


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 Post subject: Re: Squirrel - started Cinco de Mayo 2011!!!
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 11:32 am 
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I also had sleep disturbance when I started TSM. Of all my side-effects, sleep disturbance took the longest to go away. But it did go away. But for around a month or two, I was a homicidal killer in every one of my dreams. Either I was killing someone else or they were killing me. I think my kill tally must have been close to 50 by the times the dreams stopped. And I never once had a dream like that prior to TSM...

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 Post subject: Re: Squirrel - started Cinco de Mayo 2011!!!
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 11:33 am 
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Hello all, Thanks for the support!

Sunday was pretty similar to Saturday. Played with kids outside (FINALLY some gorgeous/warm weather here in CO), mixed with some chores and yard work. Wife went out with our son shopping for a couple hours while I stayed home with the little ones napping and hung out with some neighbors in the afternoon. All of these are triggers for me.

Like Sunday I had 8 beers, but, they were spread over 8 hours. Felt a mild buzz in the afternoon, however, VERY different than usual my mind was amazingly clear and I again stopped in the afternoon around 5:30. Any other Sunday the past couple years this would have been a 14-16 beer day ending when I would head to bed at around 10pm. I even had one beer left in the fridge that normally wouldn't have survived the night (why leave just one??) but I just didn't feel the craving or need to drink it. Slept much better last night than the previous 3 nights, only woke up twice. Had another dream or two last night, but can't remember what they were. I think I will skip drinking and go AF tonight.

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Pre TSM - 55+/wk
Wk 1 - 3,2.75,8,8,0,3,3.25 = 28/1AF
Wk 2 - 3.25,2.75,8,8.5,0,4,4 = 30.5/1AF
Wk 3 - 5,4,9,7,4,4,3.95 = 36.95/0AF
Wk 4 - 5,x,x,x,x,x,x


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 Post subject: Re: Squirrel - started Cinco de Mayo 2011!!!
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 5:02 pm 
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Hi Squirrel-

Ahh yes, the old door locking routine. I've never gone so far as to actually change the locks, but I have locked my hubby out more than once because I was so angry that he didn't come home from work and I knew he was out drinking. We call it the "no call, no show" and I used to get so very angry, upset, and anxious about it. He would just disappear until 2 am.
I just wanted to say that I applaud you for trying this and making a change- change is not easy!! My husband is wanting too change too, but taking a pill is not his style. He quit smoking cold turkey after over 10 years of smoking - over eight years ago. He's just one of those poeple with a strong will (unfortunately so is our 4 year old daughter- ack!). I really do wonder if he can kick this beast though. He is warily watching my progress with TSM to see how it will work for me. I think we will end up changing our lives together (reduce the drinking), but in different ways.

Best of luck to you!

-dragonfly

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Pre-TSM: Avg 60 Units/ wk, daily drinker
W 1: 36 W 10: 60
W 2: 35 W 11: 56
W 3: 54 W12: 48
W 4: 38 W 13: 60+ *No Nal
W 5: 48 W 14: 12
W 6: 58 W 15: 20
W 7: 37
W 8: 34
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 Post subject: Re: Squirrel - started Cinco de Mayo 2011!!!
PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 10:01 am 
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So, last night was AF. My first real AF day by my choice in quite some time. I did have some medium cravings, but, had decided I would not drink and just waited them out.

Hope all is well with everyone!

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Pre TSM - 55+/wk
Wk 1 - 3,2.75,8,8,0,3,3.25 = 28/1AF
Wk 2 - 3.25,2.75,8,8.5,0,4,4 = 30.5/1AF
Wk 3 - 5,4,9,7,4,4,3.95 = 36.95/0AF
Wk 4 - 5,x,x,x,x,x,x


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 Post subject: Re: Squirrel - started Cinco de Mayo 2011!!!
PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 5:20 pm 
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Good work squirrel! AF days get easier. Keep on plugging along!
EL

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 Post subject: Re: Squirrel - started Cinco de Mayo 2011!!!
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 12:11 am 
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Well, you've got me beat on AF days already, and you'll probably hold that distinction for a long time. Good work. The prospect of a night without alcohol triggers intense anxiety and dread for me. As long as I know there's a 6-pack waiting for me before I go to bed, I feel like life is OK. I honestly can't remember the last AF day I had. It's probably been at least three years.

Reading stories like yours inspires me because you have so much more on the line. You've got a wife and kids. The worst thing that can happen to me (other than health issues) is that I lose my job. I find it hard enough living as an alcoholic with my current level of responsibility, I can't imagine what it must be like for you.


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 Post subject: Re: Squirrel - started Cinco de Mayo 2011!!!
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 9:00 am 
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Thanks EL and Ives!

My wife is still really leery of the side effects. She told me not take my Nal before I got home last night since I was picking up our youngest at daycare on the way home. As posted previously, I have (for now at least) decided to not even bring Nal with me in the morning, giving me no choice but to wait until I get home postponing/reducing some drinking time. As soon as I got home I went upstairs, cut a Nal in half, had a few crackers and took my Nal at about 6pm. I opened my first beer (24oz) at 7pm. I had it by my side while cleaning the kitchen and it was nearly gone at 8pm. Since she had read my first couple posts about how slow I was drinking last Thursday/Friday she got really upset accusing me of taking the Nal before I got home even though she had told me not to. I explained I hadn't, but she said she didn't believe me. Pre-TSM, after the day I had, I would probably have been at least 5 deep by 8pm.

I am not mad, but, I am a bit hurt. Though, I am sure not nearly as hurt as she feels. I can understand her doubting me, she did catch me sneaking/hiding beers not too long ago (stupid irrational AL brain!). Since starting TSM I have been 100% honest with her because I want and need her involved and to understand what I am feeling/going through at any given time. I also need to rebuild the trust she deserves to have in me.

As for my numbers last night, I ended up at 3 again, pouring out the other half of my 2nd 24oz beer. I had a crappy and hectic day at work that had me fiending for a beer ASAP. On my way home I stopped to get my two 24oz cans and thought really hard about getting three after the day I had, I was able to fight that off though. Cravings were HUGE and I hadn't eaten yet, so, I think that is why I was able to drink the first two so quickly.

The SE's were very, very mild last night. I was a little surprised considering all I ate was a few crackers with the Nal. While doing the dishes I felt tiny bit jittery, but, no spaceyness AT ALL. The metallic taste was the only other thing I noticed and that very mild as well. Sleep was good, I think I only woke up twice.

Hang in there all!!!

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Pre TSM - 55+/wk
Wk 1 - 3,2.75,8,8,0,3,3.25 = 28/1AF
Wk 2 - 3.25,2.75,8,8.5,0,4,4 = 30.5/1AF
Wk 3 - 5,4,9,7,4,4,3.95 = 36.95/0AF
Wk 4 - 5,x,x,x,x,x,x


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 Post subject: Re: Squirrel - started Cinco de Mayo 2011!!!
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 11:49 am 
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Squirrel, I had the spaciness the first couple of days but not much after that. There is no real contraindication to driving/parenting while taking nal but bear in mind you can feel more drunk on less AL. It won't cause your BAC to be higher you may just feel more intoxicated. I understand where your wife is coming from. If you were hiding drinks (I did that) it's a form of betrayal or dishonesty in your wife's eyes. It sounds like you're about ready to move down to 12oz beers. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Squirrel - started Cinco de Mayo 2011!!!
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 12:16 pm 
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Saint Vincent wrote:
It sounds like you're about ready to move down to 12oz beers. :)


I have been getting two 24oz'ers each day (except for the weekend) to limit what I have available, and thus my drinking. It is an effort to meet my wife in the middle. If I get 12oz cans it is an 18-pack, and I am afraid (from previous experience) if I have it available I will drink it. This wouldn't have been the case the past few weeknights, but, old habits die hard!

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Pre TSM - 55+/wk
Wk 1 - 3,2.75,8,8,0,3,3.25 = 28/1AF
Wk 2 - 3.25,2.75,8,8.5,0,4,4 = 30.5/1AF
Wk 3 - 5,4,9,7,4,4,3.95 = 36.95/0AF
Wk 4 - 5,x,x,x,x,x,x


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