Hi Sticky - Thanks for the post. Yeah, we are not saints. For me that was part of the problem. I didn't start drinking until I was 50!!! Yep, I thought I was so damn perfect and judged everyone who did drink because I was an Al-Anon who had her "sh...t" together.

Well, I guess the old saying is true, pride goeth before a fall.

Now, after 30 plus years in Al-Anon I am a drunk. Anyway, the point of all of that is that I learned so much from the program. I wouldn't trade it for anything. I have a wonderful relationship with my higher power and know that my path is guided. Hope that doesn't offend anyone but the program isn't all that bad. Like they say, take what you like and leave the rest. Question is, why didn't I go to AA? I didn't want to sit in smoky rooms with a bunch of drunks!

So, here I am, but I tell you one thing if TSM doesn't work then I will go to AA. I just want to quit drinking and I don't really care what it takes. I am not an AA basher. I think AA works for many folks and so it has its place. But, if it doesn't work for you Sticky that doesn't mean you can't go to meetings. I don't remember anyone saying you can't come to meetings if you are still drinking. Gosh darn, we are powerless over alcohol or we wouldn't be on this site and doing TSM. Sometimes I think those in the program don't understand the 1st step. Afterall, it does say, "We admitted that we
were powerless over alcohol and our lives
had become unmanageable. The past tense implies that you can get power over alcohol if you can be returned to sanity, and TSM is the way to sanity. Geez....long winded, but I think live and let live and if AA is the way for some then let it be the way. For us, it is TSM.
Keep posting Sticky. It is too bad about the time difference, but you know we are here for you.
HG