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 Post subject: Re: My New Relationship with Alcohol
PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 5:44 pm 
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your graph is so inspiring (as are you) :mrgreen: i too am a health nut and am looking forward to turning my body back into a vessel for positive energy and goodness, instead of the vessel for alcohol & negativity it had become

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PreTSM: 126 u/wk, 18/day, (0)AF (1 bottle wine=6 units)
Wks 1-8: 52(2) 56(2) 58(2) 45(3), 67(2) 54(4) 50(4) 30(3)

Weekly Averages: Month#3: 14(5); Month#4: 35(3); Month#5: 3(6); Month#6: 1(6); Month#7: 1(6); Month#8: 1(6)
Wks 33-40: 0, 0


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 Post subject: Re: My New Relationship with Alcohol
PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:09 pm 
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Dang (yoga)girl - you are looking healthier :) At least your graph looks GOOD.

It is really hard to look back and dwell on our "mistakes" but this is the nature of the addiction. I completely understand attending a function then coming home and continuing - again, the addiction. You've made such good progress and continue to inspire those of us a few weeks behind. Please don't beat yourself up for what you haven't done. Acknowledge, what you are doing and what you have to look forward to. Your baby is only 4 years old. Trust me there is so much more yet to come. You are doing the best thing by sticking to TSM.

Keep posting - the ups and downs. It helps keep me plugging along too. BTDT

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Wks 1-4: 35, 58, 32, 47
Wks 5-8: 60, 44, 58, 48
Wks 9-12: 50, 41, 63, 46
Wks 13-16: 45, 40, 40, 39
Wks 17-20: 50, 0, 24, 33
Wks 21-24: 43, 52, 42, 35
Wks 25-28: 55, 52, 45, 39
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 Post subject: Re: My New Relationship with Alcohol
PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 11:18 pm 
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yogagirl wrote:
Hey Joe,
I noticed that both times I increased my dosage, I hit it really hard immediately afterward. Including last weekend, after I increased to 100mg. I don't know what that is about, maybe the body/brain/addiction trying hard to beat back the increased dosage? Both times (at 75mg and 100mg) I wondered what the hell was going on.

But then, after way too much on Saturday night, I have not wanted anything since. I have no idea if this would have happened anyway, at 75mg, or if it was the weekend at 100mg that pushed me over the edge. Maybe at 4+ months I would have turned the corner anyway, or maybe it was the increased dosage and extinguishing triggers at that dosage. That is the frustrating part, this is all so confusing!

All I can say for sure is that I have had a completely AF week and I am not getting that irritability and drive to drink I usually have after 2-3 days AF. I honestly can't believe it.

I look forward to seeing what happens after your increased dosage ... please keep us posted!

YG


CONGRATS to your success!!

Please explain why you went up to 75 and 100 mg and how it helps?

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 Post subject: Re: My New Relationship with Alcohol
PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:46 am 
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Thanks, everyone! I am feeling great this week, AF since that charity event on Sunday. I was at the grocery store yesterday and glanced at the liquor store next door. I had that little "hmmm, do I want some wine?" thought, and immediately realized "no, actually wine sounds icky." Unbelievable. I hope this lasts, I don't want to get too optimisitic too soon. But for now, I will enjoy this new control over (bordering on aversion to) alcohol.

Inspired, the reason increased my dosage was simply that my doctor told me to. I am fortunate to have found a doctor who has worked with many TSM patients. She said several of her patients have "turned the corner" when they increased to 75mg or 100mg. I was tolerating the lower doses well, so we decided to keep going. She tests my liver function every month, to make sure the higher dose isn't hurting me.

I also looked back at MinneapolisNick's log. He seemed to be frustrated, wondering if TSM would work for him, because it took longer than the 3-4 months stated as typical in the book. He also made big progress when he increased to 100mg. I know Joe12Pack just increased to 100mg, so I am anxiously waiting to see if that dose gets him to closer to feeling cured.

Good luck ... I am watching everyone's progress with interest, hoping this is the real cure for all of us!!

YG

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 Post subject: Re: My New Relationship with Alcohol
PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:38 am 
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THANKS yoga girl!

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 Post subject: Re: My New Relationship with Alcohol
PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 12:04 pm 
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Yoga. more great news! Question: I looked through Nick's thread. i don't see anything about 100mg. do you happen to remember what page it was on or around? it's a long thread. I'm having a good week so far on 100mg.

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 Post subject: Re: My New Relationship with Alcohol
PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 3:52 pm 
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Oops, I was wrong about minneapolisnick, he was actually saying he was having bad SEs at 50mg and wanted to reduce to 25mg. Sorry about that!

viewtopic.php?f=15&t=471

Joe, glad to hear you are having a good week at 100mg!

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 Post subject: Re: My New Relationship with Alcohol
PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:57 pm 
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yogagirl,
enjoy the aversion to alcohol or whatever you want to call it. so glad you are having such spectacular success. thanks for the support. :D no af days for me yet. i am watching closely to make sure i am aware of the first inklings that i am ready.
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pre tsm about 65-70 beers/wk
started tsm 6/6/2010
wk 1-4 49, ?, ?, 65
wk 5-8 67, 57, 58, 55
wk 9-12 62, 48, 65, 67
wk 13-16 64, 65, 55, 60
wk 17-20 61, 64, 46, 47
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 Post subject: Re: My New Relationship with Alcohol
PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:33 am 
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I am getting closer and closer to saying that TSM worked for me. I need more time, many more months of feeling like I do now to be sure, but some incredible things are happening.

Here's the latest: I went out for sushi last night with my husband and kids. I got a glass of wine with dinner, as usual. Also as usual, I ordered a second glass before I was done with the first. In the past, I have always wanted to make sure I could get AT LEAST 2 glasses down before the end of dinner. This time, I could barely finish the second glass, I literally had to force myself to drink the second glass (out of guilt, I paid for it, after alll ... still conditioned to never leave a half full glass!)

The we went to Dairy Queen, as we always do after sushi (we did it once, now the kids expect it every time. :roll: ) This is when I would normally start scheming. I would be thinking "Now, what do I have at home? Is there any wine, if so is there enough? If not, how much vodka? Anything decent to mix with vodka? Hmmm, maybe while they get ice cream, I'll go over to the liquor store ...." This time, I had NO INTEREST WHATSOVER in more. None. We got home, put the kids to bed and fell asleep early.

I have been up every morning this week at 6am, which was unheard of before. I have been making good breakfasts and having nice, peaceful, unrushed mornings with my kids. I am finally getting control of the chaos of my life and getting things done. I have been exercising and going to yoga classes. I think the mental fog caused by alcohol is finally clearing, and life suddenly seems so much easier.

I'll say it again. This is truly, nothing short of a miracle. I hope this is a long term result ... now I just have to live life and wait and see. :D :D :D

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 Post subject: Re: My New Relationship with Alcohol
PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:50 am 
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YG, this is a wonderful for you. Thanks for sharing that. It's got to feel great to see all these changes. How much time have we all wasted because of alcohol? I take my kids to dinner every Wednesday night and in the past I always drank 2 glasses of wine with dinner. I haven't done it once since I started TSM. The urgency and anxiety is not there anymore. I can wait until later so I can be fully present for them. Enjoy your new productivity and keep posting.

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Ave. units/4 weeks for 1 year (#AF/4 wks) 22.8(1AF),29(0),30(1),27(2),23(2),20(6),16(8),17(9),13(12),15.5(9),15.8(11),15.1(10),14.6(11)
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