Damnit!! Here I go again,welcome to the wonderful world of PTSD..Eveything is a war..Man,Im gonna get myself kicked out of here..Everyone has an agenda,mine is this..Bill Wilson called it the great obsession of every alcoholic..To drink like other men..Thing is,he made that seem like a bad thing..But what the hell is wrong with comradere and fraternal fun?? So here comes the temperence movement and starts to demonize alcohol..Then they pass forced abstinence into law and call it prohibition..Then Old Bill W.comes along and finds a way to profit off "The alcohol deprivation effect"..And the rest is history..But what happens to guys like me??who just want to be able to have a few with the boys?? We end up in AA,thats what..Then we are starved of alcohol and told we are bad boys and God hates us..Honestly,Is that medical treatment??is that scientific?? I appologise to the ladies,Im sure u have your own reasons to want to continue drinking,I just don't know?? with me its just about being a man..And then they stick me in a church basement and tell me I am less than a man..Well,bullshit!! So,I am doing tsm to,yes Bill W,drink like other men..Peace all,If I get banned thats cool..I will continue to take my pill before drinking...Goodman

dude, you're not going to get banned. relax. That one guy who was banned, was banned for repeatedly PM'ing new people and telling him he was a "practitioner" and generally posing as a doctor. It happened before I was here, but that'd what I read about it.

Joe, I hear ya..But try telling a bull in a china shop to relax..Thats how I feel..Ok,this is my last stop..I thought that tsm made perfect sense scientificly..So I started drinking and thus alienated my entire family and circle of friends..But who was I kidding??Im a grease monkey not a scientist..JamesCT was right..I was putting faith into this,just like AA..Now im scared to death..I am a true alkie,I can not stop once I start..Last time almost killed me..Oh well bud,I will try to settle down..But the way I read Bobs post,he said that guy got banned for bringing up the orange papers..have a good day ..Goodman

yeah Goodman smooth out ! And I said that smiling at you . The PTSD is a cross to bear
But trust me you won't get banned here . I don't think Bob meant any causal link between
the banned guy and orange papers , there wasn't one at all .
I too was very scared of drinking alot when I started, in fact drinking at all, as my liver was fatty and cirhosis could have been the next stop .
You need to talk to your family just tell them to check the information part here "what is tsm "
and letter to a spouse " .
For your self by all means try and control drink or take a day off .
You see , I don't know what you're like if you drink what dangers you face or get up to .
But if its really bad you can always consider abstinence again with simple promise to yourself
that if ever you slip and drink you take NALTREXONE . You see what I mean ? If you did that don't think I'm going to try tsm for 3 or 6 months . Rather you're going to do abstinence but have a safety net .
You may find the NAl curbing your quantity soon either for the honey moon or just more and more . Frankly I wouldn't get so burned up about AA , you really need to just find the best
solution for yourself . AA will still be there when you have and then you can rethink your strategy on how to go about them .
You're right I am British . I'm glad you like my style . My self I worry that I come accross pompous on a forum . But its really just throw away humour . probably doesn't always
translate that well but oh well .....like you said you shoot from the hip !!

Elfren and Joe 12, Thank you both for your understanding and support..I have a doctors appt. Thurs..We are trying to get a handle on the ptsd..,Its a vicous cycle once it starts..I do think the nal is helping with the addiction as it allows me to self medicate without going on a 3 or 4 day bender...Goodman

Hi Goodman,

Don't worry about anything you posted here. Alcoholism is a tough, tough thing to handle. If venting here helps you in any way, continue to do so.

I really regret my earlier comment about AA. I just meant that there are support-group elements here, which is a good thing. Obviously, I am not the most socially aware guy on earth, and having a few drinks while posting doesn't help. I should add that some of my posts are just theoretical musings that prob. doesn't apply to what one should do in immediate real-life.

Take care. In the meantime, talking to friends and family can only help. Please do so.

i just want to say thanks to joe and goodman and james for working it all out. nice work all of you for being understanding and supportive and seeing past a few misunderstood comments. i think you are all honoring the spirit of working together here, while still keeping a lively debate.
best to all of you!
path

Yes , couldn't agree more . Good news to see that .
+ glad NAL kicking in for Good Man .

GMO, I didn't mean to sound condescending when I said relax. I can't imagine what PTSD is like or what you went through.. I feel bad that you started drinking after reading my posts at SR and CR. I didn't want to persuade anybody to start drinking again and said so many times. However, now that you're here, freak out all you want and question.... anything, just one simple rule: Take the Nal an hour prior to drinking. I really think if you do this religiously (figure of speech) you will at least see more control in your drinking. I've been really frustrated that TSM is taking longer than I wanted it to. but had half a glass tonight. I had good beer, good whiskey at home, I stopped off on the way home and bought some red wine, and had my 3 favorite poisons in the house. i poured a glass of the red, took a few sips, and poured the rest back into the bottle and corked it. It's weird, I didn't really want a drink as I was tired, but i sort of felt I "owed" it to myself. and I didn't know what else i was gonna do tonight. I was too tired to go out and work in the studio or weedeat, so I poured a glass. Well, I can tell you I NEVER EVER poured a glass of red and didn't finish it before TSM, unless I poured the glass on the verge of passing out drunk. Overall I have seen damn impressive results. basically a 40% reduction from about the one month line I think. bottom line.....I'm sorry if my recent negativity got you down or caused you to question TSM. it works for most as far as I can see. I still have faith that it will work for me, and I believe it will work for you too. We don't have to be scientists to do this. it makes total sense. Nal+Al=cure

Path,thank you..Thats very reassuring...Hey Joe,no I dont see that as condecending,quite the opposite when i calm down and reread my posts..Ptsd is wierd like that and I can't see it at the time..Like I'm reliving past attacks that have nothing to do with this group..So again,Im sorry..What I find comforting is the ability of the people here to see me losing control and settle me down like you and elfren did.. And Joe, I take full responsability for my decision to try tsm and Im glad I did,really..Those other forums are just other examples of how brainwashed the entire recovery community is and it took some real sac to go in there and try to spread the word...JamesCt, thanks for understanding:-) These guys warned me about a rollercoaster ride..I just wasn't expecting it to be so emotional..Anyways,good form James...Goodman