You did what you could for him. You offered him help an he refused. You are absolutely right on in your decision to get rid of this dead weight. I'm glad you can see a reason to be grateful in all this too. Without TSM, not only would you be in AL trouble too, but you wouldn't be in any kind of position to offer him help. So now you are doing the right thing and time to move on. Hopefully he'll try TSM or do something

And upon reading the follow ups,...I am also with you. I didn't realize he was in denial. A drunk in denial is dead weight as everyone else said.

Yes, Houtx, trailer trash, S**t for brains etc. We all know this person,...

I congratulate you on your new business adn its success. one lost deal to learn what a loser he is is worth its weight in gold. My best, jim.


PS 1 hour, 1 glass of wine,....yawn....will hAVE ONE MORE and decide what next,...sleep maybe to get ready for big day tomorrow? just kidding. WIll try to keep #'s down though....jim

Wow. That is a story. It just serves as a reminder of how bad things can get. However, trying to convince someone to get help is not easy to do. Best to avoid doing business there!! Congrats on your success!!! It's a great inspiration for the newcomer. Btdt

Crown, no, I was never on my own business-wise in the literal sense. Never trying to start a business or anything like that. I have worked on commission (brokering) but nothing nearly as risky as what you are doing. I have been a highly functioning alkie in the public sector for 20+ yrs. I have been a fun drunk - been in good jobs, bands and had boyfriends, married late,
had a nice long marriage, 2 kids now 17 & 19, am now divorced & enjoying life again except for this little monkey on my back...

But I digress! You had paid your dues with your wild life, sobered up with TSM, and deserve to wield your sword however you see fit! Your "partner" is probably going to give you all kinds of grief, but I know you will be the king of your domain. Just say no, the picture of his chick biting his face will pretty much stay with you as you ring the opening bell on Wall St!!! LOL

Yeah - he lost his chance. Sadly, so many drunks do, as you and so many on here know so well. "There but for the grace of God"...you are lucky enough to say. Maybe he and many others will look to some of you as miracles and find their cure with TSM as well. Hope so.

In the meantime, I hope I can get that picture of his girlfriend straddling him and biting his face out of my mind!!! Were they making out first???!!! Seriously I dunno. And I'm from Texas - we do weird **** down here but this one just eludes me!! LOL

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Update

This should be quite interesting - My partner and I had a meeting this morning. I informed him I am done and moving on. I rented a small place over the weekend and let him know there is no more business between us. He then informed me he and he his girl were going to AA, they started friday, and was practically in tears begging for another chance. To see a man almost cry over business, to me, sorry if I sound unsympathetic, is pathetic. He kept telling me he is 'working the steps" got a sponsor and is going to recover. He kept selling AA and what it will do for him, like I was suppose to welcome him back with open arms - NOT. I explained to him that he almost cost us quite a bit money and this is really the begining of our venture and if he could care less now well it will only get worse.

Long story short, I have no partner, however I left him on in the capacity he can work "for" me. I kept all opinions of the cult called AA to myself and never let him knew I had any knowledge of the cults existence - I kept explaining to him this is simply business, what you do in your personal life is up to you. The capcity he is in now can't hurt me one bit if he screws up - he simply makes no money. I know this guy well and unfortunately i know the cult well. I am not holding much hope for him. He is basically doing this because his nut-bar girlfriend insisted they both go. Don't get me wrong I hope it does click for him..or something does. I am not mentioning TSM any longer, AA nothing. It's all about the business now. I will let you guys know what transpires, I am curious if the cult can fix him.

Why don't you order him a copy of Dr. Eskapa's book and email him a copy of the Newsweek article in the meantime? I'm not saying you should take him back as a partner for anything, but I know I'd have been so grateful if I'd found out about TSM months (years) ago. My own AA experience was dreadful, I kept trying different groups thinking I'd find the one meeting that clicked, and blamed myself for not "getting it"