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 Post subject: Chocolate Mousse' Progress
PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:16 am 
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I don't know what it is I am seeking here?? but I have said from the beginning that I did not want to report my progress as if it was not working I would find this too disheartening and have lurked here daily! But I would like to now! I am now commencing my 14th week on Nal. I had the honeymoon period for a about a week yippee! and then sky rocketed right up on high units, came back down on the units and have been yo-yo ing since in that I am coming right back down on my units and sky rocketing right back up again, I have now spiked right up high on my units three times in the last 6 weeks!! I have been drinking heavily for some 20 years now and one of the worst things was my blackouts which are worse since I started on TSM:( but also the one thing that has been giving me hope on this is that I had not had a total all out binge in that I didnt get up the next morning and pop open a bottle of wine, well that has just happened this weekend and I have been sooo disheartened that I feel I must share this with someone and as this site has helped me so much, I wanted to here! I don't want to put anyone off by this report, as this is just my experience but its like I cant keep it to myself either?!


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 Post subject: Re: Chocolate Mousse' Progress
PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:51 am 
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Oh CM,

I feel for you. I havent been on nal as long as you have but I think I know what the people who have been cured will say, You need to give it more time. I was reading someones progress yesterday and it wasnt untill the 21st week that he really saw a big difference. I cant remember who it was but Im sure others will pop in and let us know.

I knwo that horrid feeling of opening a bottle of wine on weekend mornings. You must put your trust in nal and give it at least a year.

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 Post subject: Re: Chocolate Mousse' Progress
PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:12 am 
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Hang in there CM

My history is more like 10-15 years than 20 years, and there is some evidence on the site that the longer you've been drinking the longer the method takes to work for you (which would intuitively make sense).

I just reviewed my progress thread. See if you don't see the similiarities

I had initially estimated my pre-TSM levels at ~70 (UK) units per week. I dunno how accurately you do your estimation, but when I did a more careful analysis I figured out that it was more like 100. I had the honeymoon, and then a pick up again.
Here is what I posted at 18 weeks:

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"Just feeling a bit down about the whole thing I guess. I had hoped to be making more progress by now. I had my initial rise after I got used to the Nal, with a peak in week 5, then a drop for a couple of weeks - an increase for a couple of weeks when I went away on holiday and then a steady drop from ~100 units per week at week 8 to ~65 units @ week 13. Then 5 weeks up to an including this week where I've climbed back up into 80-85 units pw. And that with 1 AF day each of the last 3 weeks"


and week 20

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"Not too happy right now. No AF days this week and up to 92 units. I also seem to be thinking more about Al each day than I was before."


week 22

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I'm feeling good right now. Lowest consumption since I started TSM, and 2 AF days


week 24

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I'm approaching the end of week 24, so almost 6 months into the method, well past the time when the book suggested I might be cured.
I've been up and I've been down - both in my mood, and in my consumption.

Right now, I'm definitely on my up in the mood stakes and on my way down in consumption. I'm on a 5 week downward trend before this week, and the last two weeks have been record low consumptions. I'm probably going to be up marginally this week, but only by a couple of units, so I'm not going to worry about. Much more positively this is the third week in a row I've managed 2 AF days in the week - this coming from someone who was basically a 7 day drinker with 1-2 AF days per month before this. I've made a concious effort now to allocate Monday and Wednesday as 'dry days' and to try and drop a couple of units here and there as a concious effort. It has been easier than I've thought it would be and my cravings overall are also down.


week 27

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Well almost 3 weeks since I've reported, and I'm now just over 6 months into TSM (this is week 27). I'm delighted to say that I continue to make respectable progress, and I'm feeling good right now.
For each of the last 6 weeks I've had at least 2 AF days, and this week I managed 2 AF days in a row, and could relatively easily have done another last night I reckon. However, I decided instead to have a few drinks and to try for an AF day today instead. My units are down to about 50% of pre-TSM, and the cravings are down very significantly too.

On the (slightly) negative side, I do notice that the day after an AF day I tend to drink a little bit more than average, but even there the trend is downward

Last week was my joint second lowest consumption since I began, and this week almost certainly will be the lowest - even if I drink more than average tonight and tomorrow (my drinking week being Fri-Thur incl). I'm going to shoot for 3 AF days per week now for the next few weeks, which may be a challenge over the Christmas period, but what the hey!

For anyone reading, the 'breakthrough moment' for me was deciding to 'augment' traditional TSM by 'forcing' a particular AF day per week with deliberately substituted activities, and actively trying to replace drinks on occasion with non-alcholic (or even lower alcohol content) drinks.


Week 40

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I'm quite happy with my progression so far to be honest - and totally agree about using that 'little bit of effort' - that was in effect what gave me my 'second wind' a few months back and really helped me make progress. I'm sure I'll have something similar soon where that little bit of effort makes another dramatic step change. What was impossible for me to do pre-TSM became difficult. What was difficult then became somewhat challenging. What was somewhat challenging became something that took just a little effort. What took a little effort became effortless.

Pre-TSM about the only thing that was effortless was not drinking early in the day. The 5-8pm window took just a little effort. 8-9 was a challenge. Anything after that was difficult. Multiple AF days were impossible.

Now I'm at the stage where 2 consecutive AF days takes a little effort. 3 is a challenge. An AF week would be difficult. I'm not sure anything to do with Al seems impossible anymore.


Week 46

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Any time I feel a bit despondent I just look back over my graph of the last 10 months and see where I used to be

----Then---------------------------------------------------Now
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6-7 days per week ------------------------------3-4 days per week
Cravings of 6/10 -------------------------------- cravings of 1/10
Typical weekend night drank ~ 20 units ----------- ~14 units
Typical weeknight ~ 12-15 units ----------------- usually 0, but if i drink ~ 7 units

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Pre-TSM, ~105 (UK) Units, ~0.5 AF days, Craving 8
Wk 1-8 93/0.25/3.5
Wk 9-16 79.5/0.5/2.8
Wk 17-24 75/1.2/2.7
Wk 25-32 61.5/2.3/1.6
Wk 33-40 47/3.5/1.1
Wk 41-48 47/3.5/1
Wk 49-56 44/3.8/1
Wk 57-64 45/3.8/1
Wk 66 45/3/1
Wk 66 65/1/1
Wk 67 48/3/1


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 Post subject: Re: Chocolate Mousse' Progress
PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:18 am 
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Sorry to hear that you are a bit down about your progress. But just think...you are doing something positive about your drinking. That's progress!!!! It is very slow, I know, and that's disheartening, but please be patient - it take months, not weeks.

And just taking your nal and drinking IS progress - you will never go back to that hopeless place where you just drink.


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 Post subject: Re: Chocolate Mousse' Progress
PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 12:34 pm 
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Hang in there CM. Month 8 and still awaiting teh cure,...but I fall into your 20+ year of heavy drinking, so it takes a minute to become this alcoholic, it'll take a minute to be cured....Keep posting and check in with your friends here...BEst, Jim


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 Post subject: Re: Chocolate Mousse' Progress
PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:51 pm 
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I concur...hang in there and just take it an hour before. So when you wake up & feel like popping the cork...go back to bed for an hour. Something. Good luck! :-))

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Began TSM 2/09 ave 35 - 50 units/wk
Months 6 - 12 @ 100mgs
2/10 Dropped to 50mgs; units same
4/10 stopped NAL & started BAC thru River
6/10 up to 120 mgs BAC w/ MAJOR SEs
7/10 titrating off BAC
8/10 starting Topamax w/ Dr.


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 Post subject: Re: Chocolate Mousse' Progress
PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 7:25 am 
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Thanks Guys, I really was looking 'for a shoulder to cry on' as I felt so dejected! and really appreciate your input. I know it is going to take patience and am prepared for that, I suppose what really has frightened me is that so much people here have found clarity and control with no blackouts since started TSM and this is thread of hope I do not have! Thanks again Guys xxx


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 Post subject: Re: Chocolate Mousse' Progress
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 9:07 am 
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well I've heard people say here that there beloved wine tasted awful and that even not being long doing TSM. Well twice during this week it happened to me ;) maybe I am just making progress!!


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 Post subject: Re: Chocolate Mousse' Progress
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 9:11 am 
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Chocolate Mousse,

Thrilled to hear it, my wine turned on me as well on Saturday. Dont even doubt that nal is working it is. I think we have to remember we are all at different stages in our drinking lives and it might take longer for some of us than others but we are all headed the same direction and we will all get there.

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 Post subject: Re: Chocolate Mousse' Progress
PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 11:42 am 
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Hi Chocolate,

That's great that you didn't enjoy your wine. I'm sure you'll be cured with TSM. I am still relatively new to it myself, but I believe others on this board that we have to be patient.

I drank a bottle of wine by myself on Saturday night, but it took hours. My husband and I went out to dinner at BYOB restaurant. He wasn't in the mood for wine, so I drank my glass, had a second, and finished his glass. I corked and bagged the bottle, brought it home, and finished it as I surfed the Web and ever read posts on this site. I didn't feel half bad on Sunday, even though I know that drinking an entire bottle is not really all that great! I've definitely done worse, though.

Keep the faith! You'll get there.


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