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 Post subject: Re: Wort's New Weekly: TSM + Baclofen
PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 7:39 am 
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I titrated way back - from 120mg/day to 60. This eliminated the SE's, but units went up. Yesterday I increased to 70, and was sleepy during the day so we'll see how it goes today.

There have been some interesting discussions on MWO regarding going AF with whatever effort it takes. It could be the some the SE's are more hangover that anything else - perhaps baclofen + alcohol don't really go together too well for some. If I can get back up to 140-160, I think I'll give that a try.

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 Post subject: Re: Wort's New Weekly: TSM + Baclofen
PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:26 am 
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Good luck wort, hope you get to the switch. I know when your trying to get to a goal it's hard not to go as fast as you can but please the slower you go the more your body can adjust to what you're giving it. Have you thought about just increasing 20mg every a week so you can adjust to the increase? So far we haven't had any SE except a little sleepy so Dr. Levin has been right so far on how to take it.

keep us posted on how you're doing and know we care a lot about you!

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 Post subject: Re: Wort's New Weekly: TSM + Baclofen
PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:33 pm 
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Hey corkit & wort -
Hope alls well w/ you both. Let us know. I am fine, I think.

Just going on w/ what we know is right. Hope it is all workling all out

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Began TSM 2/09 ave 35 - 50 units/wk
Months 6 - 12 @ 100mgs
2/10 Dropped to 50mgs; units same
4/10 stopped NAL & started BAC thru River
6/10 up to 120 mgs BAC w/ MAJOR SEs
7/10 titrating off BAC
8/10 starting Topamax w/ Dr.


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 Post subject: Re: Wort's New Weekly: TSM + Baclofen
PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 10:34 am 
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All,

I am slowly titrating back up, currently at 120mg, and will go to 140mg today.

Nausea and somnolence are practically gone. However, I am now experiencing a new SE. Just after taking, my hand beging shaking, making it difficult for me to write and even opperate a computer. This usually fades within an hour or so. I am still spaced out most of the time, and cannot concentrate very effectively.

Corkit and houtx, I hope all is well. Corkit, thanks for the encouragement.

-wort

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 Post subject: Re: Wort's New Weekly: TSM + Baclofen
PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 8:40 am 
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I continue to increase baclofen dosage slowly - currently at 120mg/day. I think I counted wrong in the last message - probably only 80-100 at that time. Side effects are not so bad now. I am very weary of how baclofen makes me feel (spacy and wierd), but the alternative keeps me focused.

Naltrexone seems to be having more of an effect now. Units are unchanged, but alcohol is much more tasteless than I remember before.

-wort

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 Post subject: Re: Wort's New Weekly: TSM + Baclofen
PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 9:26 am 
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Up to 200mg/day, and maybe seeing a hint of improvement. I have a hunch that I might be able to go AF, but I still have hopes that TSM will work too, so I'm not too motivated to do so. One interesting effect: I have all but stopped drinking coffee. For at least 30 years I have slugged down an entire pot every morning. I still brew a pot, but rarely drink more than one cup, and one day last week I had none - threw out the entire pot.

Side effects arel not too bad - mostly just zoned and sleepy. My summer work involves a lot of computer programming, and oddly, this is going well. I'm a little slower than usual, but very creative. It's hard to explain.

Increasing 20mg/week, so I will be at 300mg/day in five weeks.

-wort

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 Post subject: Re: Wort's New Weekly: TSM + Baclofen
PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 7:31 pm 
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Hey wort - glad to get the update as I've been thinking about you! Interesting about the lack of interest in coffee! Hope you hit the switch soon - and way before 300 mgs. I am still fighting the effects at 90 mgs this week...and stopped NAL. Just don't see the point.

Keep us posted! XO

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2/10 Dropped to 50mgs; units same
4/10 stopped NAL & started BAC thru River
6/10 up to 120 mgs BAC w/ MAJOR SEs
7/10 titrating off BAC
8/10 starting Topamax w/ Dr.


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 Post subject: Re: Wort's New Weekly: TSM + Baclofen
PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 1:02 pm 
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It is hard to believe that I haven't updated in nearly a month. It is not from lack of interest, bur rather the daily and relentless preoccupation with SE's. They morph from thing to thing. Most recently, I have developed fairly serious asthma. I know it is from baclofen, because it correlates with taking it and especially with increasing my dosage. My GP prescribed several asthma medications which hopefully will allow me to carry on.

I am currently at 275mg/day. I weigh 185lb. To convert to kg, multiply by 0.454: 185*0.454 = 84kg. Thus, my current dosage is 275mg/84kg = 3.3mg/kg. Ameisen hit is switch at 3.8mg/kg, which for me would be (3.8mg/kg)*84kg = 320mg/day. I should be there in about two weeks.

So far, units are about the same, but I can definitely start to feel an effect.

-wort

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 Post subject: Re: Wort's New Weekly: TSM + Baclofen
PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 1:25 pm 
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good luck wort. be careful about the athsma thing. I had athsma when I was younger. It didn't really subside till I quit smoking weed constantly, go figure, but I know how it feels not to be able to breath without thinking about it

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 Post subject: Re: Wort's New Weekly: TSM + Baclofen
PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 8:50 pm 
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All,

I may have hit the switch. I have been AF since 7/15. Prior to that, my units were up, and I was hammered by SE's. I really did not think I could do it, but as soon as I tried, I found that it was very easy. I am such a dope for not trying this sooner.

I am currently at 380mg/day. My dosage schedule is
7a: 40mg
11a: 40mg
3p: 80mg
7p: 120mg
11p: 100mg

I have period of true indifference, followed by periods where the cravings return. On one occasion, I had company over for a cookout, noticed cravings around 10p, and realized that I had forgotten to take the 7p dose. I managed to take the 220mg before going to bed, but the cravings persisted into the next day. Most of the time, though, I am very indifferent. I will wait another week or so before declaring success.

-wort

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Baclofen + TSM started 3/5/10; Wks 7-25: 52u/wk
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