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 Post subject: Wanting some hope
PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:51 am 
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Hi All,

I have been reading with interest the posts here and doing alot of reading about Naltraxone and more especially the Sinclair Method.

My story is this. I quit drinking on my own 2.5 years ago. I didnt want to go to AA as I live in a small town in Ireland and furthermore anything I read about AA I didnt much like. However Ive recently slipped and I feel so full of guilt and regret. My husband does not or never has thought my drinking was a problem and has again and again said that I was being too hard on myself by quiting completly. My drinking prior to quiting was binge like and I would drink up to two bottles of wine on Friday night and go out with hubby on Saturday night and have 6-8 drinks and a bottle of wine on Sunday. It was when I started to sneak a few midweek and when I was obsessing more and more about alcohol that I decided to quit.

Anyway to make a long story short since relapsing Im back to obsessing again about when I can drink next or should I give Naltraxone a go. I have spoken to a family member who knows my whole story and I have support there. I havent spoken to hubby as he would have me drinking no matter what even though he drinks little himself. He feels and I agree with him that we have no social life since I quit and I hibernate basicallywhere as before we went out at least once a week and we loved it. At the moment I havent drank in 10 days but I know its coming. Right now I cant imagine myself going back on a full quit but I hate the guilt attached to drinking too.

My bigest problem with drinking is that I can blackout after a reltivaly small amount and I was wondering if Naltraxone had any effect on that. I hate waking and not remembering some of the night before. Basically I would like to know what effect the nal has on the actual drinking episode.


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 Post subject: Re: Wanting some hope
PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:36 am 
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My dear Mario! How I feel for you. My situation is very similar to yours. My hubby never thought I had a problem because my total intake was not high - but he had no idea what it was doing to me! And he had no idea how drunk I became on so little - and he also did not want to stop his drinking even though he's able to handle it for the most part - and is a "social" drinker!

But I knew in my heart that I simply had to quit drinking the way I was. The thought of never having another drink was so terrifying, though, that I simply was NOT able to quit.

Since taking naltrexone my whole life has changed. I can literally have a drink anytime I want to now - but for the most part I just don't feel like it. I don't have to fear it or struggle with not reaching out for the bottle - and being resentful that I can't. All because naltrexone has been working away in my brain, just like Dr. Sinclair said it would!! It does work for many of us. I urge you to give it a try.

You'll be able to have a future where you and your hubby can go out and socialize and you can have a drink or two, or three if you want to - but you will have the control we have all been talking about. Let your husband think what he thinks but inside you need to come to a decision: are you going to keep feeling awful about your drinking? Are you going to hibernate and make him and you miserable? Are you going to fear taking a drink, even one? Or are you going to give Nal a try and pray, and read, and share here, and wait for the time that you can be normal again?

I wish you luck!


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 Post subject: Re: Wanting some hope
PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:31 am 
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You now have hope -- TSM works for the vast majority who try it.

Regular blackouts -- where I would forget entire conversations -- were a major factor in my decision to seek treatment for my drinking habit. I was getting to the point where pretty much every Friday and Saturday night I would binge drink and forget the majority of what was discussed the night before. However, once I started TSM, blackouts immediately became a thing of the past. I have only had a few blackouts in the past eight months or so since taking naltrexone. Drinking on naltrexone gives you more control, more clarity and yes, far fewer blackouts.

Keep in mind there are side effects when you start -- take 25 mg the first time to minimize nausea and do so on a full stomach. Side effects almost always go away after a week or so.

Good luck.

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 Post subject: Re: Wanting some hope
PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:40 pm 
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I was going to say you have no idea how absolutly thrilled I am to have found something that is finally going to make me feel normal but I guess that wouldnt be true as everyone here must have felt the same when they heard of the effects of nal.

The past 2.5 years have been fine overall but you feel out of everything. Birthdays, weddings, Christmas. Im oh so sick of the conversations with people about why I dont drink and trying to pretend to be lighthearted about it. The cravings have always been there though sometimes not as bad as others.

I actually would be quite happy if all naltraxone did was stop the blackouts. That, like you was the main reason I tried to quit. I just couldnt get past the idea that I was a 42 year old mother and I couldnt remember two nights of the week. It made me hate myself. I was also very very afraid of how the addiction would progress and how long it would be before I had no controll over it at all.

I was invited out for a meal tonight but I cried off as I dont want to drink untill I get the nal but the cravings are pretty bad and its all revolving around in my head so I couldnt trust myself. Im going to order the book from amazon and get my tabs from alldaypharmacy. Ive seen the link here somewhere and must find it. How long on average does the order take?

Thanks to both of you for poping in so quickly

I hope Ill be posting lots more here


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 Post subject: Re: Wanting some hope
PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:14 pm 
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YES, try Nal. Don't think of it as a license to drink, if you have been dry for so long. BUT, when you do drink, take the NAL. It's that simple.

>I actually would be quite happy if all naltraxone did was stop the blackouts

I think it will. As you probably know, Nal has two effects: 1) it reduces your cravings THAT NIGHT (hence, less chance of blackouts), and 2) reduces cravings long-term. Personally I have found the first effect very beneficial, even though Eskapa calls it the "weak effect" of Nal.

You have nothing to lose, so why not try it?


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 Post subject: Re: Wanting some hope
PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:08 pm 
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I don't get my nal with a prescription so I can't tell you how long it will take. Search this site (try "Alldaychemist" or "ordering naltrexone online") and the answer will be there.

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 Post subject: Re: Wanting some hope
PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:39 pm 
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I was AF for ten years, the first 7 or so as an AA Nazi. Ten years ago I decided to drink again,
it took some getting used to, but I was fantastically happy for a while. I actually started to develop
problems with the drinking several years later. I felt quite trapped...

The naltrexone stopped my blackouts (and associated asinine behavior) immediately. From my
experience, the best thing to do is drink while on naltrexone. There is the "alcohol deprivation
effect" to think about here (you must read Dr. Eskapa's book)... abstinence actually makes
the situation worse; it just sets you up for a harder fall when you resume.

TSM addresses all of this. Basically, you can be normal again, with the exception of that you'll have
to take a pill before you drink, every time you drink. Yes it sounds too good to be true,
but remember that almost all the information one gets about Alcoholism is provided either
by an organization that is unable to separate spirituality and medicine, or by members of a
multi-billion dollar treatment industry that, by any measure, is both extremely profitable and
spectacularly ineffective.

Keep us posted.

-Ned

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 Post subject: Re: Wanting some hope
PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 9:05 am 
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Ordered my nal yesterday from alldaychemist. I hope it gets here quickly.

Went out with hubby last night and had about 8 units. I dont feel that bad about it because of my decision to go down the nal route. That in itself feels good.

Im just so anxious to get going with TSM. Im coming here everyday to keep my mood up because I feel better after reading of the success's people here have had.. I have to keep telling myself that it works and that its not just wishfull thinking on my part.


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 Post subject: Re: Wanting some hope
PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:47 pm 
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Wishing you all the best, mario. Please braise yourself with the thought that this does not happen overnight. My husband and I are still waiting but we're in for the long haul, nevertheless we've seen some positive effects so far.

Welcome to the board we're here for you.

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 Post subject: Re: Wanting some hope
PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:14 pm 
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Didnt feel well today, anxiety was way up there,AL always does that to me.



Can anyone give me a rough idea how long an order from Allday chemist should take.


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