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 Post subject: Re: Progress begin 23. Apr. 2009
PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:34 am 
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today 120mg Baclofen

4pm 25mg
5pm 25mg
6pm 50mg
8pm 20mg

feeling good so far. craving does not make me any problems for the moment. my 4th AF day in a row. I think I managed this the last time years ago!

9-12pm : feeling really dizzy and sick now.

I am considering changing my dose intake tomorrow. probably 4pm 50mg 5pm 50mg 6pm 20mg
Baclofen takes about 1-2 hours to work for me.

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 Post subject: Re: Progress begin 23. Apr. 2009
PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:16 am 
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my sex drive has increased. Not sure if this is really the effect of Baclofen.
Entering my 5th AF day now, and for the same amount of days not taking Naltrexone.

guess being without alcohol has lots of good sides :D

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 Post subject: Re: Progress begin 23. Apr. 2009
PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:03 am 
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There are only 2 drugs that effect the GABA-B receptor the same way : Baclofen and GHB.
GHB has a high abuse potential, meanwhile Baclofen is classified as safe.

Was doing some research on GHB and found the following things

http://www.sixthseal.com/2005/07/baclofen-experience-report---possible-ghb-analog.html

http://bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=445812

"GHB feels like benzodiazepines or alcohol (though much better)"
"GHB is dreamy,"heavy/light" and the same time, horny, wanna do stuff."

This "though much better" made me think. The way I feel about Baclofen is that I am looking forward to take it, and it feels indeed better than alcohol.

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 Post subject: Re: Progress begin 23. Apr. 2009
PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:58 am 
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Lo0p wrote:
Wow :shock:

Costs me about 4 times as much to stay sober @ 200mgs/day...but it's still cheaper than booze! :lol:


you bet! 200mg cost me here 1.80$ (buying directly from official Pharmacies) - so even with that high dose you are cheaper than drinking. In general I would usually drink minimum 10-20$ worth of alcohol in a night (wine 15$ a bottle, good scotch 80$ a bottle,...)

but it is not about the cost really (i never felt regret for spending money on alcohol). I am just really worried for my health should I keep on drinking like I did up till last week!

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 Post subject: Re: Progress begin 23. Apr. 2009
PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:19 am 
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Strange that you like that 'woozy' feeling. That went away pretty quickly for me. Fortunately the general 'meh' feeling toward alcohol didn't. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Progress begin 23. Apr. 2009
PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:22 am 
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Lo0p wrote:
Strange that you like that 'woozy' feeling. That went away pretty quickly for me. Fortunately the general 'meh' feeling toward alcohol didn't. :)


I like the feeling when my body feels numb and when you move your head it takes some time to realize what you see, I get that sort of feeling also on Baclofen.

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 Post subject: Re: Progress begin 23. Apr. 2009
PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:02 pm 
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4pm 100mg


I start to feel the change in my body around 6-7 pm (2-3 hours later!) - which is about the time my craving gets its peak. I am considering to move to 3pm though. 100mg is for now perfectly - 20mg less than yesterday.
dizzy peak around 8.30pm (4.5 hours later!) - that pretty much matches with my previous experiences - I keep on taking it, waiting an hour - taking more - waiting - and then suddenly it comes like a flash later.
thats the only drawback to alcohol. with alcohol it is much easier to dose it, and to not overdo it. with having such a long response time as on Baclofen one has to be very careful!

The idea to take all at once seems to be correct. Lets try tomorrow 75mg and at 2 or 3 pm. Needs about 4-5 hours to show effect on me, so that way peak effects would show 6-8pm, with first feelings around 4-6pm

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 Post subject: Re: Progress begin 23. Apr. 2009
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:15 am 
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as written in my message yesterday I reduced the dose to 75mg (45mg below my highest dose so far).

2:30pm 75mg

Probably I can deal that way better with the side effects. It is funny, previously I liked this dizzy feeling, but it seems that I prefer to not have it now. That is probably the not abuse-able effect that Baclofen has compared to GHB - why one is legally available and the other one considered a drug!

starting today my 6th day without alcohol in row! :o :o I am not missing alcohol at all - not wasting my energies anymore on it! :D

75mg seems to be the ideal dose. the side effects are good to deal with and craving is not existant. Probably will take tomorrow again 100mg as I am going for dinner with some friends, I really don't want to drink anymore - the extra dose will help me to refrain from falling into old patterns.

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 Post subject: Re: Progress begin 23. Apr. 2009
PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:48 am 
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Take that daemon! I am not your slave anymore.
Its an amazing week with amazing results. 0 units - 7 AF days this week (9 AF days in a row!). For now I have control over my daemon alcohol. It will stay a fight to life and death though - With new challenges every week.

9th AF day - no drinks!

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today :
8pm 50mg
11pm 25mg
13pm 75mg
15pm 25mg

=> total 175 mg/day - taking now also in the morning, otherwise my neck hurts!

Positive effects so far (either way from Baclofen or not drinking) :
-increased sex drive
-sleeping at night usually 5-7 hours only. today I went to bed at 1am and got up at 6am!! - Not feeling tierd - although I have been doing tons of sports this weekend!! Baclofen is making me at night tierd, but for some reason I can't sleep very long on it - which is actually positive. I feel very good with it.

with sports activity I need a higher than normal Baclofen dose to keep results coming in. I did not understand yet why sports make a difference on the dose!

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 Post subject: Re: Progress begin 23. Apr. 2009
PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:38 pm 
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Congrats!!! :D

You should read my thread over at MWO: http://www.mywayout.org/community/f20/baclofen-exercise-39134.html

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