D2M,

I have a question. I understand the frustration as I am halfway to where you are in time on TSM and damn I would do anything to be cured right now.

Since we have to self monitor, this could be the last attempt of the brain trying so hard to get its reward. The spike they all talk about. Please consider continuing at least another 3 months or so on Nal even if you get Baclofen. Everyone reports the books time frames are bogus for most of us. Wouldn't it be sad to get right up to the point of cure only to be defeated and possibly never feel the bliss others are reporting? And yes, if my dumb shrink would give me Baclofen, I would be on it today.

I think it took Edison over 10,000 times to get the filament light bulb. I'm sure glad he didn't give up. BEst to you D2M, Jim

D2M - Please stop beating yourself up. I know you feel like things are taking too long but 30 weeks is really 6 1/2 months and many of us are counting on the cure taking longer than that. I am aiming for 9 months before I consider Bac. I agree with the others, what if you are just around the corner from it actually working?

I work from home as well and drink about the same as you. What a habit we've gotten ourselves into! Sometimes it's all garbage in, garbage out - do you know what I mean? I know it's hard to be positive but you have all of us here rooting for you.

"Far away there in the sunshine are my highest aspirations. I may not reach them (today), but I can look up and see their beauty, believe in them, and try to follow where they lead."
- Loisa May Alcott

D2M -- Sooo sorry TSM isn't getting you the relief you need. It may take longer, and some here are hanging in there, hoping that after several months they finally will see results. Others (especially those with dangerously high consumption) are considering (or have decided upon) a cocktail of baclofen and naltrexone. Have you considered this? I wish I had a magic wand for you.

I'm right with you D2M,

I'm at an impass this week,.,.I was doing exhaustion therapy and it seemed to work but eventually I catch up on my sleep and I get back to my old self.

I am not see or feeling the "I don't need booze " thing they say. BUT I will not give up. UNTIL 1 year has passed....ok my friends,...happy holidays...Best, Jim
PS Try to drink less,..I'm going to try

D2m I have been following your recent posts with great interest, and long been meaning to write to you. I share so much in common with you, from increased drinking while on TSM, being able to drink like it's water, how much we drink a day, and trying to use valium to stay sober for longer than I otherwise could (I'm prescribed it anyway for GAD). I also barely leave the house, but in my case this is due to my GAD and drinking way, way too much recently.

I absolutely sympathise with and understand your plight, and feel so much for you, because I am right there too, and know just how difficult it is.

In rehabs I have always been told that around the 48 to 72 hours mark is the most dangerous for seizures when going cold-turkey, so please have your SO keep a good eye on you if you can. Also, I don't know if it's possible, but could you have just one or wo drinks a day for a few days to avoid going completely cold-turkey?

All my very best to you,

eight

HI D2m,

I've been through two private detoxes (very expensive indeed unless you have private health insurance!) and then the money ran out, so I went through a public one (took me four months of waiting to get in there).

I don't get sweats or shakes from not drinking either, but I do suffer from an unrelated (but antagonistic) generalised anxiety disorder (GAD, for short) and although I am on valium ( 8-10mg a day) for that, my doctor has brought that amount down (with my agreement, as I am desperate to get off that horrible stuff). Alas this effort has coincided with a huge surge in anxiety for me due to other medical reasons, and thus more drinking, leading to even more anxiety.

Basically, I feel stuck right now, but will see the GP as soon as I can. In the meantime, I am seriously considering Baclofen, but that's probably a topic for another thread.

Wishing you all the best

eight

Don't panic D2M , do not despair . From what you say about anxiety you'd do well to
give Baclofen a try .
Oh blast the keyboard !
As I was trying to say .... 78 percent suceed on tsm and that so fantastic that we pin high hopes . But consider it this way : one in five will not find it works and that sounds high too , not so ? So that's ok , there are other avenues for you . Don't panic .

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78% cure rate is brilliant. But I don't see 78% of people here cured. Or maybe I'm not reading enough.

I don't have too much time online here, so tend to check my pms and responses to my posts, maybe I need to take time to read more.[quote]

I don't see that 78% anywhere other than in the book, and as far a I recall that was with rats who had been selectively bred and chosen for that particularly genetic tendency to 'opioid' type (as opposed to 'Gaba' type) alcohol addiction...my layman's guess is that 78% of those rats were cured due to the specificity of their alcoholic nature, but us humans are far more complicated...

My friend, I will PM you exactly where I went for detoxes tomorrow. Forgive me, as I am rather tipsy now and struggling to write (not much else you can do after a pretty miserable Christmas day except get drunk, I say!)

All the best to you, will be in touch soon

eight

Yes, we are almost exactly the same my friend. Horrible isn't it? But together we WILL find a way out of this, of that I am certain

D2M - Stay positive, even if things aren't working out right now. THEY WILL. I think it is Lo0p who finally went with Bac and Nal. Please look into his progress threads and search Bac and Nal. I am on my way out the door for a three day drive to get to the sunny south. Keep the faith and I'll check back with you when I can.

C.