Good point, BG - some people, as soon as they hear the word "cure" their minds close quicker than a Soberrecovery thread, and no further information is able to penetrate. Usually we can just say "who cares" to this kind of boneheadedness, but it's harder to say "who cares" if its your family, your SO, your doctor or anyone else you really care about. By simply omitting the word "cure" from my conversations I find that I'm able to talk about TSM with many more people and not get caught up in semantics. It shouldn't be this way, but an old proverb says "it is what it is" and so there you have it.