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After many weeks of TSM, alcoholic beverages taste worse.
Strongly Agree 13%  13%  [ 3 ]
Agree 13%  13%  [ 3 ]
Neither agree nor disagree 9%  9%  [ 2 ]
Sometimes Agree, Sometimes Disagree (It Depends) 13%  13%  [ 3 ]
Disagree 43%  43%  [ 10 ]
Strongly Disagree 9%  9%  [ 2 ]
Total votes : 23
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 Post subject: Re: Poll: Do alcoholic beverages taste worse after weeks of TSM?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:52 pm 
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Even excellent, expensive wine doesn't taste very good anymore. I'm buying the cheap stuff because it all tastes about the same. And no warm fuzzies either :cry: I might need to start a new thread about that.

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 Post subject: Re: Poll: Do alcoholic beverages taste worse after weeks of TSM?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:40 pm 
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It seems to be a common phenomenon, but I didn't know how prevalent, thus the poll.

Nothing with alcohol in it tastes appealing to me any more. I can barely drink it now. Good riddance I say, although I wish I could have an occasional cold refreshing brew after a tough day at work... that's not gonna happen. :(

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:29 am 
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I wonder why in some folks the taste of AL turns bad and with other folks it tastes the same. It seems like we would have a common experience.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:28 am 
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bob3d wrote:
I wonder why in some folks the taste of AL turns bad and with other folks it tastes the same. It seems like we would have a common experience.

Bob

Hi Bob,

I don't think the following answers your question per se - however, it suggests that naltrexone does modify the palatibility of alcohol in rats:

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=13783901

You may also find the following article to be of interest:

http://alcalc.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/co ... t/agn122v1

I wonder, could the answer to your question be related to the sweet-tooth issue? Just a wild guess and probably wrong!

V.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:00 am 
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It taste the same, but I really wish it didn't. :(

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Thanks for the responses and thanks for the links to the studies, Virgil.

The abstract from the first study explicitly states "Naltrexone, an opioid antagonist, has been shown to reduce the palatability of 10% alcohol solutions in rats, as measured by taste reactivity." It would make sense that it would in humans also. In my case the alcohol did not become unpalatable until the de-addiction occurred.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:04 am 
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I can neither agree or disagree. I find that while the beverages seem to taste the same, without the euphoria they lack the luster they used to have. Thus they aren't as tantalizing as they once were. So, they don't taste as good as they used to but they taste exactly the same as they used to.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:26 am 
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rapper wrote:
I can neither agree or disagree. I find that while the beverages seem to taste the same, without the euphoria they lack the luster they used to have. Thus they aren't as tantalizing as they once were. So, they don't taste as good as they used to but they taste exactly the same as they used to.
So, I guess you selected "Neither Agree Nor Disagree" in the poll?

Bob

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 Post subject: Re: Poll: Do alcoholic beverages taste worse after weeks of TSM?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:50 am 
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Roger that.

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