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 Post subject: Re: SpringerRider Weekly Progress
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 1:01 pm 
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I do suppose there will be other occassions and it is necessary that I find and "drink to them" though they feel like set-backs, in my opinion, I am simply identifying triggers that must be extinguished.


I am having similar experiences. I am starting to see glimpses of de-addiction, but I'm still only 1/4 of the way through this. So far, I've had at least one bad drinking day every week. The next morning after these bad days, I always worry that maybe this really isn't working and I'm just fooling myself. I think part of this is the fact that alcohol is by nature a depressant.

I've also noticed that hang-overs seem much worse on Nal. Not sure why that is.

Thanks for the update. I've been wondering how you were getting along.

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 Post subject: Re: SpringerRider Weekly Progress
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:13 pm 
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I dunno - what is NOT a trigger? I can always find an excuse. I have been taking NAL everyday for 5 wks now. Only noticing tiny differences and not enough to make me wanna go HMMMMM...but I am being patient and just living my normal day-to-day life. I never experienced that "honeymoon"...and I do find my first glass of wine does not taste as good...but the 2nd does...and everything after...

I feel like I am "drinking through it"...i.e. by drinking normally and it worries me. There hasn't been a single glass I haven't felt like finishing, etc. I am not disappointed, just trying to understand it takes time and am trying to drink slower, read my signs, triggers, etc. ehhhhhhhh -

But glug glug glug...there is a demon within that is trying to sabbotage all my good intentions...

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 Post subject: Re: SpringerRider Weekly Progress
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:49 pm 
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houtx770 wrote:
I dunno - what is NOT a trigger? I can always find an excuse. I have been taking NAL everyday for 5 wks now. Only noticing tiny differences and not enough to make me wanna go HMMMMM...but I am being patient and just living my normal day-to-day life. I never experienced that "honeymoon"...and I do find my first glass of wine does not taste as good...but the 2nd does...and everything after...

I feel like I am "drinking through it"...i.e. by drinking normally and it worries me. There hasn't been a single glass I haven't felt like finishing, etc. I am not disappointed, just trying to understand it takes time and am trying to drink slower, read my signs, triggers, etc. ehhhhhhhh -

But glug glug glug...there is a demon within that is trying to sabbotage all my good intentions...


Though I did have agood honeymoon, I am always the "best on in the class" and may have had a strong placebo affect. But after the honeymoon my driniking did "shamefully" increase. Then the desire slowly lessened over time. Give it time, my dear. What you are attacking are drinking patterns. I'll leave it at that. If you were drinking all over the map, than you have a lot of work ahead of you.

If you don't see any change in you desires after four months then you may want to sound the panic button. But not before.

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 Post subject: Re: SpringerRider Weekly Progress
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Hangovers worse on Nal? I found the exact opposite. My hangovers were waaay better on Nal. That I can not imagine! Sorry to hear that.


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 Post subject: Re: SpringerRider Weekly Progress
PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:54 am 
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Today is my new week. I have reached nine of those puppies. The operative term is now "subtle". Everything that is taking place seems to be happening under the radar screen. No big leaping changes from one day to the next. I just notice that I go to the liquor store less often. I only buy a beer on the way home about once every two weeks. I used to do that every thrid night and then I knew I was going to drink a lot on those days.

The cure range is always published as 4 to 6 minths and that is encouraging. If it was 2 to 4 months I would feel like I was falling behind. I am doing well. Some days I feel totally cured where I think that I do not feel like I would ever need to drink again. Other days, I feel like I have regressed. But I never feel as I did before the SM. Never!

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 Post subject: Re: SpringerRider Weekly Progress
PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:41 am 
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SR, again, thank you for sharing the journey. I think our stories are going to be very instrumental in helping others to take this leap of faith. So far, it is SO worth it!


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 Post subject: Re: SpringerRider Weekly Progress
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I am still with the living. Travelling for business. I am truly reaching a point where I have to decide if I want to take Nal and drink enjoy the endorphins. I have been going several double AF days to let the Nal wash out. The colors are so much brighter when I am Nal free.

Last night I did not want to take Nal but I had to entertain a client so I did. Had two beers and returned to the hotel wishing I had not bothered. I am finding myself enjoying the increased opioid receptors more than drinking.

I will post more later when I get back home. Have a ten hour drive today.

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 Post subject: Re: SpringerRider Weekly Progress
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Hey SR. So far I haven't had that experience of things going 'flat' on Nal. Is it possible that your 'brighter colors' are at least partially due to having the alcohol wash out of your system? I know for sure that since I've become a daily drinker that I do not have the same keen pleasure in life, or a sense of healthy spirituality, that I did when I was AF.


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 Post subject: Re: SpringerRider Weekly Progress
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Goin4More wrote:
Hey SR. So far I haven't had that experience of things going 'flat' on Nal. Is it possible that your 'brighter colors' are at least partially due to having the alcohol wash out of your system? I know for sure that since I've become a daily drinker that I do not have the same keen pleasure in life, or a sense of healthy spirituality, that I did when I was AF.


Oh I imagine that healthy living contributes. I am normally a very passionate and intense person and I think that the Nal does affect that. But I am noticing the heigthened response to exciting things adter the Nal washes out. That is expected and documented in Eskapa.

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I now count days on Nal, rather than drinking days.

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 Post subject: Re: SpringerRider Weekly Progress
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I just posted this on MWO and thought I would post it here since it sums up my experience reasonably well.

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I find it very easy to NOT drink. I am rarely pre-occupied with the desire. When I do find myself wanting to drink, I take Nal and wait an hour. Often during the wait, the interest simply goes away but I always drink at least one for the curative purposes - sometimes reluctantly. I have several AF free days a week. I try to have two days consecutively to allow the Nal to wash out of my system. Once the Nal in washed out, I receive a rebound effect and where anything exciting is more exciting. That is a known phenomena and is a little dividend we experience from the growth of extra opioid receptors.

Now, make no doubt that I am still able to 0ver indulge and have. Nal has little to know aversion effect. If I drink hard liquor and cross the 4 drink line, I will probably end up over-indulging. If I drink only beer, that is almost impossible to do.

Another amusing observation is that if I take Nal and go out to purchase alcohol, I may come home empty-handed. It is like going grocery shopping right after eating a large meal. It is hard to feel interested in buying alcohol after I take Nal. What is more strange is that I am directed to drink after taking Nal for that is how the curing process works.

The difference between my life now and four months ago are unrecognizable. I go out with clients and never fear going out of control. What is different now is that drinking is not a very exciting activity anymore. If I go to Applebee's and order a tall beer, the last few gulps look like "just too much to swallow". That energy to "knock 'em down" just isn't there. I now understand that it was that "excitement" that made me an alcohol addict. I talk to my non-addicted wife and tell her how I now experience drinking and she says that that is how she does.

I now know what those people who used to say, "I can take it or leave it" meant. Once the addiction component is gone, drinking just isn't that big of a deal. The ultimate paradox is that now I can drink but have little desire to do so.

Do I miss that desire? Sometimes I feel a little disappointed in what a drink means to me. I will be in the hotel and think, "I am going out to a nice club and have a few". For a little while I will have that "off to the races" feeling and then I take my Nal and may find that I lost all interest in going out and may walk to the gas station next door and buy a 16oz. Coors, go back to the room, drink it and go to sleep. I guess I miss that hyper excitement some nights - but never in the morning.

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Average AF days 6/wk
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I now count days on Nal, rather than drinking days.

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