May I suggest getting married - that'll soon put a stop to that sort of carry-on!

In retrospect, I apologize if I was too flippant in my earlier remarks. If I've learned anything on this board, it's that while we may all be on the same general path, our experiences along the way can vary wildly -- what is true for me may not be at all applicable for someone else. My attempts at humor are an effort to be cheerful and encouraging, not to make light of any real issues.

And remember if you were to drink without Nal, it would take3-6 months to relearn behavior. I can imagine that that's the same with sex if there would be a reduction. But honestly, I think that the sex drive is wired in pretty strong.

My observations are the same as above in terms of effect of climax slightly diminished,. but we'll see how tomorrow is being that this is my first AF day since starting the program. I also am only taking 25 mg as I am an evening drinker.

Good luck, Jim

I find that sex is great w/ nal. My wife is definitely treated. It is listed as one of the side effects w/ my script, more staying power if you know what I mean(no, I didn't have a problem w/it before, but now, holy cow). This is probably from not getting the endorphine rush. This has been a great side effect.
I don't know, I don't think it will ever be extinguished in me.
Thought about it, married 4 kids, extinction can't possibly happen.

ok well to follow up on my own subject post,

I had sort of a 'eureka' moment over the weekend

Me and my gf have decided that as long as im gonna be having these dry out days we should 'maximize' them

so today were going to go hiking, then im hitting the gym for two hours and once I've showerd we're gonna 'rub boots' so to speak

I'll keep you guys posted, i'm a nursing student myself and from what I can tell theres enough specific areas of the human brain specifically related to sex (and food and fear and anger) so that extinction would be impossible and/or extremely difficult (maybe this is a subject we should ask dr. eskapa personally?)

at any rate, let yah know!

Gee, I don't know how I failed to read this one for so long. I have only had sporadic sex (well, every few weeks/months is sporadic in my book*) since being on NAL and have found no diminished effect whatsoever in my desire or response. I am a menopausal woman who can't get enough right now though (LOLOLOL). And it's all good! But in all seriousness, the only extinctive** feelings I've gotten on NAL is a decrease in my desire to exercise.

This actually excites me as I feel like something is working! I continue to exercise b/c it's a habit and I like the results. I'm also thinking I'm drinking out of habit as well, and I probably need to make more of an effort to change that (I come home and it's what I do)...or maybe one of these days my little tiny "ehhhhhh" feelings I'm feeling lately will become more distinct and obvious, and I will actually not act on the habit...

Does that make sense?? Sheesh - even rereading it I question what I'm saying. I teach school and feel like a walking Robotron all day long. Irepeatmyselfoverandoverandoverandover...


* but all that is changing LOL
** is this a word??

YAY!

–adjective
tending or serving to extinguish.

Are these...glimmers houtx?

From the Good Dr. Eskapa



"It depends on the extent of the alcohol addiction to begin with: if the addiction is overwhelming and very bad then this takes precedence over other behaviors. Yes, it is possible that sexuality will be extinguished at the same time as craving / addiction to alcohol. Once you have alcohol free days - washout days where there is NO naltrexone in your system and NO alcohol - on those days you should do positive / desirable opiodergic (endorphinergic) behaviors - like having sex and (see Selective Extinction in the book) on those days sex and opioidergic behaviors (vigorous exercise, spicy foods, sweets) should be even more reinforcing (enjoyable) because of 'opioid receptor upregulation' .... so once your craving has decreased and your drinking levels reduce to a point where you can go without drinking alcohol and NOT taking naltrexone on those occasions then these desirable behaviors should increase. However, addiction to alcohol must - because of its overt danger and the poor health consequences as a result of loss of control over drinking - be considered a priority. Do not worry that you will permanently extinguish your sexuality..... it will return (if for you it has diminished) when you are ready for selective extinction - i.e, washout periods when you are not taking naltrexone or drinking.

Roy

I think the final sentence is key from what Dr. Eskapa said I think.......Jim

Quite frankly, I am very skeptical that an innate drive, like sex, could be extinguished by naltrexone. The theory of TSM is that LEARNED behaviors can be extinguished by removing the positive reinforcement with the conditioned stimulus. However, your sex drive is not a learned behavior, it is innate to all of us. So I'm not sure you could even extinguish an innate drive. But even if you could, it would be a lot harder to do it because it's innate and it would surely return in short order if it were extinguished. I have noticed nothing different regarding sex and exercise and I've been doing both regularly (one more than the other -- the less interesting one, unfortunately, more frequently) since starting TSM. I, personally, would not be the slightest bit worried about the theoretical possibility of extinguishing a sex drive. Worst case scenario, it would come back immediately without naltrexone, assuming it's even possible to extinguish an innate drive in the first place.

It is really a very important thing for every couple to have a healthy lifestyle. It is one key also that would bond their relationship stronger.