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 Post subject: Today is day ONE...
PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:46 pm 
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I posted an introduction a week or so ago here http://www.thesinclairmethod.net/community/viewforum.php?f=6&sid=7ec2cac5746c012c60f017cfcb86f3ad.

Since this post, my husband and I had a pretty bad falling out about his sneaking and drinking jager on top of whatever. He had been banned from jager and most hard liquor because it simply makes him stupid drunk. He doesn't do it alot, but the last time he did it a few weeks ago it prompted the search for help which landed me here basically.

We are both alcoholics but we are different in the way that we drink and the reasons we drink. He started drinking and drinks for anxiety and pleasure, depending on the day. I started drinking to be social I guess or while being social and over the years, I developed a habit. We both crave and generally drink four to seven days of the week. I would say we both generally drink five days a week regularly, mostly on weekends and are off days are usually Monday and Tuesday. We both usually binge when we drink or drink alot.

So today we got our pills. We drank Friday as usual, beer atleast a 8 to 10 beers each. Johnny drank atleast a 6 pack on Saturday and I drank two beers. We both were AF on Sunday.

We don't always feel like drinking and this may have been a bad day to start our pills because we usually don't drink on Mondays and today was a different day for me all around. I cleaned the house all day and I cooked. I usually don't clean or cook ha ha! But I do want to drink when I cook because for some stupid reason or another.

About 30 min. after taking the pills, we both felt different. It could have been that we had a something built up in our minds about it. But we both felt a little high. Johnny went to the store and I noticed myself feeling increasing relaxed. Not sure if that was the med or not but I felt different and it wasn't bad. Johnny returned and told me he was having moments of feeling relaxed and anxious. Anyway, we had set the hour timer and started drinking an hour and 25 min. after taking our 50 mg. pills.

I'm drinking Merlot and I'm on my second glass. I don't know if I will finish this or have another yet. Johnny drank two beers and poured out the third about half way through! :o He is different than me that while home, he will not drink and eat dinner. He does his drinking then stops and eats, then he goes to bed. I like to drink and eat dinner and will continue drinking until bedtime. And I'm usually the first to eat, as he is still drinking and he not that hungry. The roles have reversed tonight because I'm not hungry at all! But it is hot here in the south and I was heating up the kitchen and I felt nauseaus until I sat down for a min. to write this. I feel better now, not so yucky but still not hungry. I'm over weight so it will not hurt me to miss a meal! :)

I will keep everyone posted of our progress especially for the lurkers that have similar habits as we do and similar histories. Wish us luck!

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 Post subject: Re: Today is day ONE...
PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 6:27 pm 
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It's interesting that you felt a little different just from the naltrexone itself. A few other people have reported that.

It sounds like a good first time. Here's hoping for a three-pill cure for both of you, or at least a fast response.

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 Post subject: Re: Today is day ONE...
PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 7:03 am 
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So I poured another half glass of wine and tried to eat but couldn't eat. Took me forever to finish the wine but I have a hard time pouring stuff out. I feel very focused. I hope that I can sleep!

Interesting articles that I found while surfing. The first one is interesting becuase they mention they will prescrible only Bacolfen with sever liver damage...

http://www.news-medical.net/news/201406 ... nster.aspx

LDN or Low Dose Naltrexone a happy pill that boosts immune system?

http://www.drwhitaker.com/what-is-low-dose-naltrexone

Will be combine with Wellbutrin *possibly* for weight loss?

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2014-06- ... tics-slips

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 Post subject: Re: Today is day ONE...
PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 9:34 am 
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Hi and big welcome to you and your husband. You can do it. A few things from a novice who is only a few months ahead of you. I mean it only in the spirit of helping, so if it doesn't jive with you, consider it nbd, no problem. O.k., any reason you started out at a full 50mg as opposed to starting the first two days at 25mg? Is your diary in place? Do you know what you are gonna tract and why? Are there beneficial activities you'd like to re-address after the cure has started? Imho, don't over think this. Naltrexone a hour before drinking = cure. It's that easy. Good luck


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 Post subject: Re: Today is day ONE...
PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 8:31 pm 
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Sound like you could be fast responders. I also felt the nal buzz.

Good luck!

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 Post subject: Re: Today is day ONE...
PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 10:18 pm 
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Hmmm, I think I felt that little buzz too, but I was running around and too busy to really notice it other than I just felt "lighter". I hope you two are fast responders and I think it's great that you started together and can compare . Welcome! Keek

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 Post subject: Re: Today is day ONE...
PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:15 am 
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If you're taking a poll, I definitely "feel" Naltrexone and have from Day One. It's hard to describe it, but I wouldn't use the word "high."

Anyway, sounds positive. I also couldn't drink three on drinks on day one, and literally spit out my third drink the next day.

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 Post subject: Re: Today is day ONE...
PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:31 am 
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This is why I (almost) never drink. The small pleasure of drinking on nal isn't worth the nal. Sometimes I think that I'd like to crack a beer, but then I think about the nal and how it would suck the joy out of not only the alcohol but of most other things I might do that evening, and I end up deciding against it. I probably should do a refresher course of nal+al one of these days, but I just never want to.

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 Post subject: Re: Today is day ONE...
PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 2:27 pm 
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plantpr0 wrote:
Hi and big welcome to you and your husband. You can do it. A few things from a novice who is only a few months ahead of you. I mean it only in the spirit of helping, so if it doesn't jive with you, consider it nbd, no problem. O.k., any reason you started out at a full 50mg as opposed to starting the first two days at 25mg? Is your diary in place? Do you know what you are gonna tract and why? Are there beneficial activities you'd like to re-address after the cure has started? Imho, don't over think this. Naltrexone a hour before drinking = cure. It's that easy. Good luck


Hey there! No worries, I love feedback. If I ask alot of questions or seem challenging, it is because I'm curious.

We started out on the full 50 mg. essentially because we didn't know any better. I posted a question about that and we were advised to cut it in half so we did.

I'm going to use this forum as my diary. I'm going to tract the days and the amounts we drink and where because the short term goal is to reduce our drinking habits to normal habits and that is no more than two drinks for me daily and three for him.

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 Post subject: Today is DAY FOUR
PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 2:51 pm 
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sooooooo.... We both were AF Tuesday and Wednesday. Being AF for two days is not unsual for us, our main days are the weekends and we generally start toward the end of the week. So Thursday we both took 25. mg, waited the full hour and proceeded to drink beer and it felt pretty normal. I felt a slight effect from the nal and so did Johnny, but nothing like the first time. Johnny finished drinking early and wanted to eat instead of continue which is positive. We had six or seven a piece, I can't remember right this second but I don't think the nal had a huge effect otherwise we would have drank less. Johnny had trouble sleeping again. I slept fine.

Friday, we again took 25. mg each but this time, we took it around 2pm. We had to meet a client between 2 and 3pm so after that was done, we went out for wings and beer. We were both craving a cold one but once I got there, I was couldn't decide what kind of beer that I wanted which is strange. Johnny drank five draft beers and I drank three bottles of beer. Then we got cheesecake and went home and did not drink anymore. That was pretty positive. I also watched Breakfast at Tiffany's, which I had never seen. Johnny slept but said he slept so so.

So here we are today, day four on the nal. It Saturday of course! We usually work Saturdays so I've been doing my admin work while Johnny is in the shop. But at 12:30 we took a full 50 mg. of nal. Johnny left to meet a client with his helper while I stayed behind to work on our website. Again, I feel that "high" feeling. It actually a nice feeling and calming. I was craving a beer but when my hour was up, I decided I wanted a sandwich instead. I also decided that I couldn't drink a beer without lime so I waited to drink until Johnny returned home with limes. Except he didn't bring limes damnit!

He also said he felt the nal and felt calm while gone. I ran out for limes and I just felt light and not worried. I may exchange the nal for booze forever! :) Anyway, I'm on my second beer. I started an hour or more before Johnny did. So we shall see how this unfolds.

OH! Before I forget, I tuned into some reggae music today which was VERY ODD for me. I love certain reggae but it is not a genre that I usually listen to.

Hope everyone is having a FABULOUS Saturday! :P

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