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 Post subject: my progress 10 days out
PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:32 pm 
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Greetings,
So, I've noticed that I'm actually drinking more than I was prior to starting the NAL. I think it may be a situation where I'm like "well i've got to drink for this stuff to work, so screw it..." Today is my 2nd AF since beginning. Oh, and I'm still easing in with the 12.5mg, but will be moving up to 25mg for my next drinking session (initially started at 50 mg, and had horrible side effects -- nausea, zombie head, flu-like symptoms). Anyway, anyone else find that there drinking INCREASED in the beginning?
thanks!

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Start 10-17-2013 90 US/wk
week 1-80 AF=1 (started with 50 mg for first 4 days...way too strong went down to 12.5mg)
week 2-71 AF=1 (@25 mg)
week 3-54 AF=2... (still @25mg)
week 4-47 AF=1 (50 mg)
week 5-80!AF=1


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 Post subject: Re: my progress 10 days out
PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:06 am 
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If you arent taking 50mg, you are still getting reinforcement from the alcohol and now you have an excuse to drink. So its not surprising that you are drinking more.

Not to downplay the side effects from a 50mg dose, i wrote up my experience in another thread and it was not pleasant.

Staggering the dose seemed to help (half pill to start, other half pill an hour later), but i still have only taken two pills so sample size is small.

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Skipping nal? Not waiting the full hour?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinforcement

Read "intermittent reinforcement" and "schedules"

Pre: 14-30/wk
9 Oct 13: 2.5
15 Oct 13: 3.5
17 Nov 13: 1.75
28 Feb 14: 2
1 Apr 14: 2


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 Post subject: Re: my progress 10 days out
PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:24 am 
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12.5mg almost definitely isn't covering your receptors, and as said by sideeffect you also have the excuse and a reason to drink(TSM).

So work at increasing the dose to 50mg, and do not read "drink as you normally would" as telling you to force down your usual number of drinks. I believe it means drink as you feel you want to, ie whatever you think is enough. Don't be afraid to drink less.

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Cravings eliminated Sept 2011
Now fully in control, alcohol no longer bothers me. Chose to go AF from 22nd July 2013.
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 Post subject: Re: my progress 10 days out
PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:32 am 
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I agree UKblonde. I think the "drink as you normally would" in the book means drink the same types of drinks, in the same situations and with the same patterns as before starting TSM. When you start not wanting to drink as much, then it's not about forcing yourself to drink the same amount as before.

pkrosec, you may not start to see a decrease until you're up to the full 50mgs.Have you tried taking an anti-sickness tablet with the Nal? It worked for me.
Best of luck,
Ruth.

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Pre-TSM average of 60 UK units per week
(Approx.34 US units)

1-6 : 37,45,46,39,23,43
7-12: 30,? ?,24,27,25
13-18:21,19,23,17,21,4
19-24: 24,19,25,26,32,
25-32: ??,11,10,9,12,11,9
33-37: not tracked
38-40: 11,9,9
Reached safe limits so no more counting


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 Post subject: Re: my progress 10 days out
PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:20 am 
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thanks everyone for your comments, and this is sort of as I expected (12.5mg not being enough that is). I have moved up to 25mg, and plan on moving up to the full 50 this evening. Will keep you posted with progress.

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Start 10-17-2013 90 US/wk
week 1-80 AF=1 (started with 50 mg for first 4 days...way too strong went down to 12.5mg)
week 2-71 AF=1 (@25 mg)
week 3-54 AF=2... (still @25mg)
week 4-47 AF=1 (50 mg)
week 5-80!AF=1


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