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 Post subject: Juancho's Progress
PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:47 pm 
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Hello again folks - and thanks again for the replies on my introduction post(s). On day 8 tonight of Nal - a little history of the last few weeks:

I got the book and read it quickly - that and have read as many posts as possible here so I have a better understanding of how things work. What you are all doing here is nothing short of heroic - it's so helpful to see others experiences and realize that I am not alone!

After checking the post office 2x a day for over a week - waiting on my mail order Nal (bride? :) ) - it FINALLY! arrived - YAY! First night on Nal was last Thursday, March 31st. Wow - what a crazy, strong, powerful drug - gave me some very predictable (based on others experiences) side effects - they were strong! Biggest side effect so far, and continues to today - "spacey-ness" - that and the "steely" taste of alcohol. Enjoyed a few glasses of red wine last night - and it just didn't taste the same. Beer seems to be closer to it's "original" flavor. Speaking of beer - it's 11:30 PM here and I just cracked my 4th. Not sure if that's a result of too much wine last night, or Nal, but it's welcome.

I ordered Nal from 2 different pharmacies - and they are definitely different in terms of labels, color of pill, packaging etc. I also feel like they are different in terms of their effect on me. Is this possible? They both say Naltrexone Hydrochloride, so? Is that even possible? One definitely seems to have more affect on me than the other brand. No biggy as I know where I got the stronger one from but...just curious has anyone else seen this?

My numbers:

Pre TSM:
Week 1 - 52
Week 2 - 66

NAL 1 hour before:
Week 3 - 62

So I feel the side effects, feel "loopy" or "spacey" - no crazy dreams or sleep troubles yet, but - the pill is still powerful and I can definitely tell when I am on it - also feel like I might be feeling it a bit the next morning as well. I should also say that I feel more in control on some level - still pounding them down as the numbers attest - but I don't feel like I am on the edge of bad behavior - like I can almost drink as much as I possibly can - and not lose control. That's the right way to say it - drink as much as I want without turning into an a-hole, and remaining more in control.

Anyway - after some comical moments - the Postal Service cops must have loved looking at their video surveillance tape of me coming to check my POB 2x a day - some concern on my part, and just plain DESIRE for the Nal to get here, I am finally on the road and damn happy about it.

This board is awesome and I appreciate reading all the stories out there - THEY HELP!

--Juancho--


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 Post subject: Re: Juancho's Progress
PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 7:52 am 
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It's great that you are having side effects as this is a good indicator you are not in the 20% naltrexone doesn't work for. Welcome!

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 Post subject: Re: Juancho's Progress
PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 2:15 pm 
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I've ordered nal from riverpharmacy and alldaychemist. I don't really notice a difference in their strength. Just that the one from alldaychemist is uncoated so it is extremely bitter.

Jauncho, which one do you think is stronger?

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5-8: 39
9-12: 25
13-16: 24
17-20: 18
21-24: 8
25-28: 4 Regained Control at Week 26
29-32: 6
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 Post subject: Re: Juancho's Progress
PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:21 pm 
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It seems to me that the nodict I got from The River is stronger than the Naltima from alldaychemist. This must be a perception thing or something...meaning it almost cant be real. Think I'll use up the nodict first and then the naltima...

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Pre TSM - 55-60+ / week
Week 1 - 62 Units
Week 2 - 44.5
Week 3 - 41
Week 4 - 57
Week 5 - 58
Week 6 - 52
Week 7 - 53
Week 8 - 53
Week 9 - 51
Week 10 - 51
Week 11 - 48
Week 12 - 43
Week 13 - 38


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 Post subject: Re: Juancho's Progress
PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 5:42 pm 
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i use both Nodict and Naltima and have never been able to tell the difference. That said you can get a bad batch of any drug so go with your instincts.

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 Post subject: Re: Juancho's Progress
PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:01 am 
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Hi Juancho - Just wanted to say welcome and glad to have you here with us. Good luck in your progress on TSM.


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 Post subject: Re: Juancho's Progress
PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:40 pm 
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Well, serves me right for the Naltima perception/comments. Took a Naltima tonight instead of Nodict and had the strongest (and very unpleasant...) reaction to nal thus far. This could however be from taking it on a totally empty stomach - apparently not a good idea. Was busy all day at work - right through lunch - took nal at 4pm with the intention of drinking after work, and bang - crippled on the couch for three or four hours with headache, saliva / steel taste in mouth, and severe drowsiness. Had a beer several hours later and that seemed to help a bit.

I should also note that I have another odd side affect the last few days - come home, hit trigger time, and am totally drowsy and need a nap. No al yet - just nal. Hard to take that nap with my 2 young kids crawling all over me playing - the good part of being on nal and waiting till later in the night! Get to hang with my kids and be "checked in"...

The good news so far is I *have* side affects, and my units are down roughly 50% over the last 5 days or so...

One final note - I had my debit card number stolen and attempted to be used recently after ordering online. My wife read other's comments here about that subject and we surmise that the ordering of nal and the debit card # theft are related. Just adding a +1 to others experiences / comments on that note...

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Pre TSM - 55-60+ / week
Week 1 - 62 Units
Week 2 - 44.5
Week 3 - 41
Week 4 - 57
Week 5 - 58
Week 6 - 52
Week 7 - 53
Week 8 - 53
Week 9 - 51
Week 10 - 51
Week 11 - 48
Week 12 - 43
Week 13 - 38


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 Post subject: Re: Juancho's Progress
PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:17 pm 
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Juancho, I was wondering if you had your identity stolen from a transaction with Alldaychemist. If this is still going on (happened to me over a month ago), it might be wise to switch to River for Nal supply.


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 Post subject: Re: Juancho's Progress
PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:28 pm 
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twotwomany wrote:
Juancho, I was wondering if you had your identity stolen from a transaction with Alldaychemist. If this is still going on (happened to me over a month ago), it might be wise to switch to River for Nal supply.


Yes, that is what I was trying not so non-chalantly to infer...adc appears to be the common denominator. All good now as I will order from "the riv" from here on out...

Wasnt so much my identity, as my debit card number, but regardless...

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Pre TSM - 55-60+ / week
Week 1 - 62 Units
Week 2 - 44.5
Week 3 - 41
Week 4 - 57
Week 5 - 58
Week 6 - 52
Week 7 - 53
Week 8 - 53
Week 9 - 51
Week 10 - 51
Week 11 - 48
Week 12 - 43
Week 13 - 38


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 Post subject: Re: Juancho's Progress
PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 3:26 pm 
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I knew things were improving - very excited by my numbers for my second week on TSM!

No AF, but still down by a nice chunk over last week...

Woot!

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Pre TSM - 55-60+ / week
Week 1 - 62 Units
Week 2 - 44.5
Week 3 - 41
Week 4 - 57
Week 5 - 58
Week 6 - 52
Week 7 - 53
Week 8 - 53
Week 9 - 51
Week 10 - 51
Week 11 - 48
Week 12 - 43
Week 13 - 38


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