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 Post subject: Re: Girlamsterdam is going to try this!
PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:03 pm 
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Hi, I thought let's give an update. Went to à three day famous music festival in the netherlands, and had à marvellous time. Took nal all the three days, had 5 the first day, 8 the second and 4 the third, which including sleeping badly in à campsite in à tent with 3 others was ok! I was knackered though After the festival, by dancing in à circle pit, jumping, dancing between 30000 other people in à sweaty tent and losing my voice After singing along. The only thing was that my phone was stolen... Really bummer.

So I worked one more day and tuesday morning, got on the plane to the south of france and slept all through the first night :-) only had two small glasses of wine yesterday, as my mother had five! And now we are going to à restaurant and I have only had one glass at 1600! My mother (whom I am on holiday with) days she is so happy she can have à glass with her without drinking abnormally and not needing it to sleep (I still do, but it is becoming less and less). And I am getting less and less nauseous!

My mum does not know about nal btw.

What happened to buenavista? Hè deleted his posts...


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 Post subject: Re: Girlamsterdam is going to try this!
PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:18 pm 
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Hi GA,

Glad to hear you're doing so well! and hopefully the sleep will become more reliable as well.

I have had much experience with Rxs like Xanex and Ambien, and you are wise to be wary of them. Very easy to become addicted, difficult to taper off, and the withdrawal - from Xanex, in particular - for me, was longer and more ghastly than acute alcohol withrawal.

Just curious, why are you keeping Nal/TSM a secret from your mother? Though, I shouln't talk; I kept my drinking issues from my immediate family for years. Now, however, they all know, and I even send them weekly email updates on my TSM progress. It helps to keep me accountable. And I'll be visiting them next month in California for a mini family reunion and I want to be transparent about my Nal protocol and have a few drinks, even!

Take care, and keep posting. We all need each others' support!

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 Post subject: Re: Girlamsterdam is going to try this!
PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:16 pm 
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Hi, GA. Congrats on your progress and great holidays.

TSM is going great for me. I deleted them because I put too much personal information out there.

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 Post subject: Re: Girlamsterdam is going to try this!
PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:44 am 
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Hi BV, OK, I thought you quit... but you just continue on a less personal level :-)

Good for you, Writer, that you are doing so well! I have also taken Xanax once before, but I was quite scared when I read about it on the internet, that I quit soon, and tried other stuff...

I have already slept three nights without taking alcohol at night :-) First two nights were difficult, waking up a lot of times, but last night I only woke up twice and slept quite deep. I took 2 glasses of wine the first day I was here, 5 the second day of holiday and yesterday 4. So that's very well in fact, just with dinner and not during the day, and not during the night! It has a lot to do with daring to break the habit, I notice. At the moment when I am working, I do not dare changing the habit, because I am afraid that sleeping bad for a long time will make my prestations in work less and I will become stressed and exhausted.

But now I am just falling asleep every time to an app called 'Just Being' which has a voice which sounds very sleepy and just keeps telling me to 'just be' and 'there's nothing you can change'. And when I am just thinking rounds in my head, it distracts me and I will actually fall asleep at a certain moment.

Whoohoo!

Good luck to you all, today I will enjoy the nice weather and go biking around the sea and lake here.


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 Post subject: Re: Girlamsterdam is going to try this!
PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:28 pm 
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Glad your vacation is going well! I'm going to check out that app. I've been waking up the past few nights but I hope it's just the light of the full moon.

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 Post subject: Re: Girlamsterdam is going to try this!
PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:46 am 
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Aargh, those sleepless nights are doing me no good... While on holiday everything went well, but now, back in corporate stressy life, 4 hours per night is more regular then exception... And again I need alcohol to sleep, but hate it at the same time, because I want to keep my brains functioning normally during the night and not sedating them, so they cannot process the information from the day... I keep taking Nal though, so I take it two times a day, around 6 - 7 oclock at night, and again around midnight.

I still think my consumption is too high, at around 4 - 5 glasses alltogether...

At the same time, I am very productive, with having finished my house and everything, take care of my projects at work and starting a education of Neurolinguistic Programming soon.

Anyone experience with that?


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 Post subject: Re: Girlamsterdam is going to try this!
PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:38 pm 
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Girlamsterdam,

Are you taking the Nal by following the rule (Nal + 1hr before drinking) or are you taking it on some kind of schedule regardless of if you drink?

By schedule could be messing with your sleep.

Rich

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 Post subject: Re: Girlamsterdam is going to try this!
PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:31 pm 
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Hi Rich,

I take nal following the rule + 1 hour, so when I take at six, I start at 7PM etc. But I take again when I go to sleep (always 25 mg), so when I wake up at 3 PM, I will not break the cycle (top up the dose to say so).

Got the tip from Trisha, you think it will work like this?


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 Post subject: Re: Girlamsterdam is going to try this!
PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 5:53 am 
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Hi all, and again not posted in some time... I feel really nauseous recently and it is, I think, because I drink too much, and have a lot of stress at the same time. I have been having a lot of work stress and have been pushing myself too hard.

Need motivation to push some af's!


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 Post subject: Re: Girlamsterdam is going to try this!
PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:30 am 
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Hi Girlamsterdam,
I've lurked on and off for a while. I live in Germany, where online pharmacies refuse to ship to. Do you mind telling me where you ordered your Nal from?

Thanks,
Duncan


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