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 Post subject: Re: Bob's Weekly Progress
PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 7:39 am 
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Thanks H4O. It is fascinating suddenly viewing life as a "normal person" again. I too have a fairly hard time relating to the feelings and cravings I had just a few weeks ago. That "other person" has faded and we are becoming new persons now.

I have thought over the last few days what I would do with this thread now that I'm "cured". I don't think that it would be beneficial to anyone to check into bob3d's thread every day to check to see, oh, he had yet another consecutive AF day, or bob3d had one beer last night. Dull stuff, but that's what all of you will face soon... the glorious freedom of a dramaless life with no regrets when waking in the morning.

Anyway, my weekly report will become just that, a report once per week, probably updated on Sunday or Monday night for the events of the previous week. I'll spend more time reading other threads and helping/commenting where I can.

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W53-91: 4, 2, 2, 2, 3, 2, 1, 5, 4,17, 0, 0, 0║ 3, 0, 3, 0,3, 0, 2,0,0,0,0,0,0║0,0,0,2,0,2,0,0,3,0,0,2,0u
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 Post subject: Re: Bob's Weekly Progress
PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:00 am 
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Bob, TSM is such a new thing it would be wonderful if you would post once a week so we can see that you are still cured. It will help those of us who are not yet there still believe it is possible! Last week was so good for me but this week is turning out to be just the opposite for me like a few others here I get discouraged at times.

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 Post subject: Re: Bob's Weekly Progress
PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 9:57 am 
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I agree with LaBear. I am fascinated by this "new person" you have become and would really love to hear what it's like for "the new you" to experience the world as a non-addicted person. I think reading all of the ways that your life has changed for the better each week would be even more valuable to many people than reading, "I"m having doubts... not sure this is working..." I often think about how much different my life would be without the monkey on my back. And now I'm in the unusual position of being able to hear from someone else firsthand what it's like to make the transition to "normal person." Think about it! Bob and the others here are literally some of the first people in THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD to not just quit drinking, but to be CURED OF THE ADDICTION! Your words now are like GOLD!! 99.9999% of addiction doctors do not believe that you even exist! I simply can't wait to hear how much better your life is. To paraphrase FB a while back, "Yeah, this is fantastic; now my wife and kids love me; I have the perfect job as an astrophysicist; I no longer walk around with my zipper down and WOW, I never noticed the color green before."

I still LOL every time I remember that classic quote.

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 Post subject: Re: Bob's Weekly Progress
PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 10:32 am 
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LaBear wrote:
Bob, TSM is such a new thing it would be wonderful if you would post once a week so we can see that you are still cured. It will help those of us who are not yet there still believe it is possible! Last week was so good for me but this week is turning out to be just the opposite for me like a few others here I get discouraged at times.
I completely understand. I don't intend to bail out anytime soon and there is experience and advice to offer.

I can't stress enough that although I agreed with the science of TSM as outlined in Dr. Eskapa's book, I never truly believed this treatment would actually work until it started to work. I was beyond surprised. After a while drifting through treatment after treatment, you get kind of jaded. I felt it was necessary to give this one a shot before trying something else. I had actually lined up the next treatment which I would have started Jan 1, 2010 after giving TSM 9 months to work. I am still trying to wrap my mind around the fact that this treatment worked. I just kept following our well known simple rule of always taking my Naltrexone one hour before drinking and the extinction process happened.

In retrospect, I would have been much better off if I had just taken the Naltrexone, waited an hour and drank as always, never analyzing or questioning TSM's efficacy through the journey. It would have saved a lot of time and worry. But we are not rats. We are humans that must think and analyze everything even though there is little to do during TSM treatment other than just wait. Of course we have difficulty doing this, but if we could strive to let the treatment do it's job and continue our life as it is until TSM works. Also we have emotions that we can't control. Sometimes we feel down. We feel disappointed. But it all does not matter. TSM works whether we are negative or positive about it; whether we ignore it or analyze it. It ignores how we think or feel because it works at the chemical receptor level in our brain.

So, in summary, try to disregard your thoughts or analyses as hard as that may be, until the cure occurs. You'll know when it starts to happen.

Bob

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Wk1-52:40,42,39,28,33,33,43,40,36,30,34,30,30║30,38,13,25,4,22,12,6,9,5,9,3,5║6,6,5,4,9,6,0,9,2,2,5,4,4║3,4,5,3,4,2,6,2,6,4,8,2,2u
W53-91: 4, 2, 2, 2, 3, 2, 1, 5, 4,17, 0, 0, 0║ 3, 0, 3, 0,3, 0, 2,0,0,0,0,0,0║0,0,0,2,0,2,0,0,3,0,0,2,0u
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 Post subject: Re: Bob's Weekly Progress
PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 10:39 am 
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Oops, I cross-posted with you, Nick!

Response to follow...

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Wk1-52:40,42,39,28,33,33,43,40,36,30,34,30,30║30,38,13,25,4,22,12,6,9,5,9,3,5║6,6,5,4,9,6,0,9,2,2,5,4,4║3,4,5,3,4,2,6,2,6,4,8,2,2u
W53-91: 4, 2, 2, 2, 3, 2, 1, 5, 4,17, 0, 0, 0║ 3, 0, 3, 0,3, 0, 2,0,0,0,0,0,0║0,0,0,2,0,2,0,0,3,0,0,2,0u
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 Post subject: Re: Bob's Weekly Progress
PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 11:22 am 
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minneapolisnick wrote:
I agree with LaBear. I am fascinated by this "new person" you have become and would really love to hear what it's like for "the new you" to experience the world as a non-addicted person. I think reading all of the ways that your life has changed for the better each week would be even more valuable to many people than reading, "I"m having doubts... not sure this is working..." I often think about how much different my life would be without the monkey on my back. And now I'm in the unusual position of being able to hear from someone else firsthand what it's like to make the transition to "normal person." Think about it! Bob and the others here are literally some of the first people in THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD to not just quit drinking, but to be CURED OF THE ADDICTION! Your words now are like GOLD!! 99.9999% of addiction doctors do not believe that you even exist! I simply can't wait to hear how much better your life is. To paraphrase FB a while back, "Yeah, this is fantastic; now my wife and kids love me; I have the perfect job as an astrophysicist; I no longer walk around with my zipper down and WOW, I never noticed the color green before."

I still LOL every time I remember that classic quote.
I think there's got to be hundreds or thousands of people in Finland and in surrounding nations that have been cured. Also, we have heard anecdotal evidence that others have tried this method as early as 10 years ago and 3 years ago. And I'm sure there are many who are now cured that bought Dr. Eskapa's book and never did anything online.

The difference here of course is we have a community of maybe a couple of hundred people here and eight of us are cured and most of us eight are still posting and communicating with other members here. I don't see any reason why we couldn't go on tour and spread the success of this method. It would really be a benefit to mankind. But until then, we can spread the word here. We are real people who used to be alcoholics, formerly thought to be incurable, and are now either light social drinkers or abstinent by effortless choice.

And yes, green is a great color!

Bob

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Wk1-52:40,42,39,28,33,33,43,40,36,30,34,30,30║30,38,13,25,4,22,12,6,9,5,9,3,5║6,6,5,4,9,6,0,9,2,2,5,4,4║3,4,5,3,4,2,6,2,6,4,8,2,2u
W53-91: 4, 2, 2, 2, 3, 2, 1, 5, 4,17, 0, 0, 0║ 3, 0, 3, 0,3, 0, 2,0,0,0,0,0,0║0,0,0,2,0,2,0,0,3,0,0,2,0u
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 Post subject: Re: Bob's Weekly Progress
PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 12:27 pm 
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Bob wrote:
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Thanks H4O. It is fascinating suddenly viewing life as a "normal person" again. I too have a fairly hard time relating to the feelings and cravings I had just a few weeks ago. That "other person" has faded and we are becoming new persons now.


That says it all! I think when you are still in the place so many of us are (way into the program, but not seeing results just yet), we can hang on to those words and know that our time will come when we too can "look back" and be amazed at how we feel now vs. how we used to feel weeks before. I can't wait!

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12-36, 13-39, 14-38, 15-40, 16-38, 17-39, 18-30, 19-36, 20-36, 21-38
22-36, 23-37, 24-40, 25-39, 26-42, 27-38 28-42, 29-39, 30-38
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 Post subject: Re: Bob's Weekly Progress
PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 2:44 pm 
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bob3d wrote:
I can't stress enough that although I agreed with the science of TSM as outlined in Dr. Eskapa's book, I never truly believed this treatment would actually work until it started to work. I was beyond surprised.
Bob


I too just didn't believe this treatment would work even after it started working for me. It is so strange to think back just a couple of months ago when I was obsessed with drinking. Today, it just holds very little interest to me.

What a dramatic change.

I liked your comment about going on tour. :) Actually, I do have a real desire to share TSM with people now. What this method has done for all of us is so amazing.

Q

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 Post subject: Re: Bob's Weekly Progress
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I couldn't be happier for you, Bob (and Q, as I have posted elsewhere & will again)...

I am sort-of weepy, actually, reading of your success. Still keeping my fingers crossed for my own bad self. Happiness thru tears - "my favorite emotion". There is hope, I hope. Your story is enough to bring me even more :-) Can't wait to proclaim my own lack of interest in the demon alcohol and express very little interest in the thought of wine with dinner...can't even fathom it!!

Wonderful news & so happy for you, Bob!! XO

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 Post subject: Re: Bob's Weekly Progress
PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:48 pm 
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This week's cute graph...
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The intercept has been corrected to indicate my estimated 50 unit/week pre-TSM intake, even though it may have been higher. The curve is approaching zero faster due to this weeks much lower consumption than last week's curve "predicted". The graph is not used for predictive purposes, but to illustrate the decay curve better based on actual historical numbers.

Bob

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Wk1-52:40,42,39,28,33,33,43,40,36,30,34,30,30║30,38,13,25,4,22,12,6,9,5,9,3,5║6,6,5,4,9,6,0,9,2,2,5,4,4║3,4,5,3,4,2,6,2,6,4,8,2,2u
W53-91: 4, 2, 2, 2, 3, 2, 1, 5, 4,17, 0, 0, 0║ 3, 0, 3, 0,3, 0, 2,0,0,0,0,0,0║0,0,0,2,0,2,0,0,3,0,0,2,0u
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