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 Post subject: Re: Pale Progress
PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 8:46 pm 
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But, erm, yeah . . . that's quite high for a "normal" person of either sex.

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 Post subject: Re: Pale Progress
PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:38 am 
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melissa and jokerman...Is the difference of opinion coming from the US/UK/Ireland all measuring drinks in different ways/volumes? Not sure if 6 drinks US stylie is the same as over here. My husband, who is without doubt a normal drinker (can take it or leave it, rarely drinks etc), would think it ok to have 6 regular size bottles of Bud on a night out but he'd never drink that much at home on a regular week night.

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1-6 : 37,45,46,39,23,43
7-12: 30,? ?,24,27,25
13-18:21,19,23,17,21,4
19-24: 24,19,25,26,32,
25-32: ??,11,10,9,12,11,9
33-37: not tracked
38-40: 11,9,9
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 Post subject: Re: Pale Progress
PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 9:37 am 
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From what I read they measure the same in Europe and US. Weekly max is 14 (2 a day) in US and Europe and is (2 to 4 daily). I'm shooting for Europe standards 8-)

My wife just keeps telling me you can't save them for the weekends. ;)

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Week 4 35
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 Post subject: Re: Pale Progress
PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:59 am 
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From what I read they measure the same in Europe and US. Weekly max is 14 (2 a day) in US and Europe and is (2 to 4 daily)


It's all a bit confusing. The UK governement's safe drinking advice says for women 2 to 3 units per day and for men 3-4 units (not drinks)....plus 2 alcohol free days per week. There's different unit values for different types of alcoholic drinks and also US and UK alcohol units are different. 18 US units equals 32 UK...34 US equals 60 UK...14 US equals 25 UK.

Whatever the maths, your wife's right...you're not meant to save them up for the weekend!!

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Pre-TSM average of 60 UK units per week
(Approx.34 US units)

1-6 : 37,45,46,39,23,43
7-12: 30,? ?,24,27,25
13-18:21,19,23,17,21,4
19-24: 24,19,25,26,32,
25-32: ??,11,10,9,12,11,9
33-37: not tracked
38-40: 11,9,9
Reached safe limits so no more counting


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 Post subject: Re: Pale Progress
PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 6:03 pm 
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Ruthy wrote:
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From what I read they measure the same in Europe and US. Weekly max is 14 (2 a day) in US and Europe and is (2 to 4 daily)


It's all a bit confusing. The UK governement's safe drinking advice says for women 2 to 3 units per day and for men 3-4 units (not drinks)....plus 2 alcohol free days per week. There's different unit values for different types of alcoholic drinks and also US and UK alcohol units are different. 18 US units equals 32 UK...34 US equals 60 UK...14 US equals 25 UK.

Whatever the maths, your wife's right...you're not meant to save them up for the weekend!!



Darn you are right! Just looked up - In Europe one unit is 10 mil of alcohol and 18 us. Oh well there goes me goal of reaching European standard and thinking the US limit was set by a bunch of teetotalers. I like the US definition the best I guess. Easier to understand - 1 beer equals close to 1 unit.

I guess in any country I drink too much. :(

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Week 2 30
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Week 4 35
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 Post subject: Re: Pale Progress
PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 6:29 pm 
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I really should go figure out this "units" business.

British people are currently drinking more than US people, so I guess a higher consumption would be socially normal there. These things are so relative. These days the health watchers say that five drinks is "a binge." A few decades ago, five drinks was "a dinner party."

So, reconsidering -- maybe six is okay for a big night out, if that's truly the norm of one's subculture. It's probably still not a good idea for the average Saturday, though. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Pale Progress
PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 9:02 am 
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well the experiment with half dosage over the couple days continues. Did drink a little more than I should (a lot by any standard) was over the whole day though. But actually felt better this am than I have for a long time. Beer tasted better and went down quicker than full dosage - cravings were there but not as bad as pre Nal.

Been having some back issues - have not had that in years. I think it was brought on by being so tired and overdoing things. The side effects I'm getting appear to common (tiredness & joint pain). I'll stick with half dose for awhile and see how it goes. Numbers are spiking this week because of vacation - but well below amount I drank on vacation pre nal.

We'll see.

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 Post subject: Re: Pale Progress
PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 11:49 am 
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Hey, 32 is better than 50. Onward and downward!

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 Post subject: Re: Pale Progress
PostPosted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 7:46 am 
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Have not posted for awhile. Been playing around with dosage. At 1/2 was getting to enjoy the buz and would find myself drinking to quickly. Been trying 3/4 an so far not have extreme tiredness and don't have desire to power drink. We'll see. long way from cured. I'm on vacation the next 2 weeks - will be a test for sure.

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Week 2 30
Week 3 37
Week 4 35
Week 5 28
Week 6 32
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Week 8 26
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 Post subject: Re: Pale Progress
PostPosted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:09 pm 
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I'm glad that you realized you were enjoying it too much and needed a higher dose. It's important for us to realize these things.

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