I too have those feelings of listlessness and low energy. My usual up energy is not with me, but hey I am not a spring chicken!

But for me it may be the baclofen, or it just may be my relationship problems with my husband, it's HOTTHEN COLD

Well I shall try to continue to persevere

Thanks, I think I will post this as a question to the good doctor.

potato , I really don't know if the following will help but it helped me somewhat in fact about fifty percent of the time .
there's an idea around that alot of people who attempt abstinence might do very well with moderation . Also that it isn't necessarily the first drink that sets up all havoc but somewhere around (third for women), (four for men ) i found that If i exceeded this I would exceed even further but stopping on four is much easier than six or more . But in addition to that it needs framing well, like you start at say 7/30
and round about ten you admit that it'd be nice to smooth down to bedtime with
some other sleepy infusion. you have to persuade yourself that you're not being deprived and that to apreciate the buzz, really concentrate on its subtle lift take it to the plateau and enjoy the half hour it 'll continue to buzz after you place the glass. Of course this all sounds nice and hypnotic but that's true go for a quality buzz and fully feel it . Well, it did work for me about fifty percent of the time the rest I wanted to go further . But that's all pre sinc , you may find it alot easier now.
Formerly i always had a rushy, rushy feeling , and as alot of people say here that urgency diminishes .
take fully the six months and more before concluding ; i understand your concerns.

I went through a period of ups and downs but refiuse to give them much respect. I have made up my mind to let the process work and sit by as a wittness. It is me and alcohol in the third quarter. I am winning 40 to 13. They seem to be growing weaker as I grow stronger. No long shots - just steady runs.

Part of my interest in starting this thread was to hear from drop-outs. I have noticed a lot of people who have joined but neither posted only once or twice or never posted at all. They may have been lurkers but they may have started Nal and dropped out. I have also seen a few that explicitly stated that they joined the method but have dissappeared. They truly interest me in that failure is as informative as success. Of course, asking for their recognition may be like asking all who have left the room to raise their hand. Then again, they may still be lurking.

I find it definitely an issue these days stressy situations lead me to look for outlets. Then I might go and workout really hard, clean up the house, cook and do other things and sometimes it is still not enough to just try to "wear myself out". I get extra stressed out then and over-tired and that just leads to more stress and it gets like a snowball and I start to feel unglued. I don't know how to arrest these these times. Annoys the hell out of me.

Waiting- I assume Cash is one of those- she seemed very happy to have started then disappeared...I have emailed her, maybe there are a few others, I will try to find them.

Well guys, I think we're seeing a predictable circumstance here. Overall, alkies are not consistent by nature. Here we have a bunch of addicts beginning a program that requires a long-term commitment, many without the support of their friends and families, or even a prescribing physician to oversee their progress. Those of us who are on this MB regularly all seem to be highly motivated, intelligent, and able to communicate well. I suspect we're all fairly good typists, to boot!

Those former members who don't connect, or communicate, as well as we do aren't going to experience the full benefit of the support system here, as we do. They're going to have their discouraging days - as we all do - and feel like "What the hell! This is just one more process that isn't working!" Feeling alone, like a failure, and beating themselves up - they soon give up.

My sincere hope is that as more of us become successful at recovery, some of those drop-outs will check back when they're 'sick and tired of being sick and tired' again. They'll see our posts reflecting experiences similar to theirs. . .and also see that those off days DO pass, and TSM DOES work over the long term for those of us who stuck with it. And they'll be inspired to try again.

From my POV, this is not only - or even primarily - about my own recovery from alcoholism. It represents an opportunity to offer life-saving hope to many, many people whom I know and love dearly. . .and to others I have never met.

I am SO not a good typist. In the past I have dropped a friendly "How's it goin" pm to a one time poster, and this sometimes is followed by active participation (you know who you are). Anyone who likes that idea could go to the message list and drop a few friendly lines to the new or inactive.

Having trouble YES! I did just go way overboard and in the course of 1 1/2 days drank 4 bottles of wine, one of which included a champagne in the am for the hair of the dog. NOW I AM FEELING totally guilty and depressed and unsuccessful.

But I got my "me" out of the bed this am and went to yoga, got the endorphins up and now am off to a "fool's day parade."

And although I feel "unsuccessful" it is true, sticking here on postings helps me keep the perspective and I reread the positive posts, and that is exactly what helps me believe I will get help from this SM.

I took my nal and I am am continuing towards a positive result.

And I must say, I felt like "s !" after drinking all that and that was was normal prior habit, and I did use it because I have a very stressful and unsolved emotional situation. This is more emotional, if I understand that, it helps me to realize the Al was and is not helping me to better my perspective.

So I am going to turn the negative into the positive. I am not going to kick myself, I am going to learn from the indulgence, and move forward towards better healthier progress.