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 Post subject: Re: Progress begin 23. Apr. 2009
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:56 am 
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Elfern, I think you are exactly right – both me and Jake had the same sort of steep spike in drinking you describe, right after experiencing some measurable success. It lasted a few weeks, but then this weekend we both had fewer cravings than at any previous time. If it hadn’t been for certain triggering social situations, I believe we would have not even bothered to drink at all – or at least drank only a couple of units. We are really feeling the progress at this point! You will before long, too.


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 Post subject: Re: Progress begin 23. Apr. 2009
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:27 pm 
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5 units today.

Was feeling strange in general today. I usually hate to say no to people, I said no on purpose to demonstrate my power to say no.

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 Post subject: Re: Progress begin 23. Apr. 2009
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Good for you, on both counts!


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 Post subject: Re: Progress begin 23. Apr. 2009
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:27 am 
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I have lost so far over 12 kilos (24+ pounds) - which is over 11% of my body weight.

so I was searching on the web and I found something very interesting

http://professional.diabetes.org/Conten ... 1706-P.pdf
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_h ... n29416433/
http://www.pslgroup.com/dg/25BABE.htm

I am taking daily Bupropion - or also called Wellbutrin
and because of my alcohol therapy I take Naltrexone - so I combine both medicaments as described into the links.

I was really surprised that usually after a drinking night I have less weight in the morning. I think this is maybe the answer!

I am also doing a diet - but I think a part of the loss is caused by the combination Bupropion + Nal.

It is really unbelievable that exactly the combination I am taking is researched right now to be approved for obesity treatment!

6 units today

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 Post subject: Re: Progress begin 23. Apr. 2009
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:29 pm 
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Craving,

Congratulations on your sucess with TSM and for your weight loss! The link you posted about the combination of Nal and Wellbutrin promoting weight loss is very interesting. I've experienced what I considered an "unexplained" 20 pound weight loss in the past year, and it happened quite rapidly - like within 6 weeks. I attributed it to a lack of appetite due to stress at first, but then the weight has stayed off all this time, even when things got much better. I've been taking Wellbutrin for years, and I'm not sure, but the time of my rapid weight loss might correspond with the beginning of my initial Naltrexone consumption. This could just be coincidence, but it's uncanny. I also notice a pronounced increase in my appetite on days that I don't take Nal (only 1 or 2 a week), so I had assumed that Nal might be suppressing some of my food cravings??? I was only aobut 20 pounds overweight to begin with, but I'd hate to gain it all back if I start having more AF days than Nal days. Maybe I'll become one of those who has only one glass of wine a day with dinner - just in case!


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 Post subject: Re: Progress begin 23. Apr. 2009
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KrazyKris,

Thanks for your report - very interesting. So you did not only loose it - put it kept staying off. Very nice.

I still have another 16 kg that I want to get off - then I am at my pre-alcohol start level
It is amazing how much I have added up in few time - and at the same time it is amazing how much I have lost in short time.

I hope that I can get the rest also done with my diet and Nal+Bupropion.

The research was only on 24 weeks - but they noted that the weight loss kept on - with forming a plateau later. Would be interesting to see a 1 year trial of this!

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 Post subject: Re: Progress begin 23. Apr. 2009
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Today AF - not so difficult - the mucosal in my mouth hurts

Although I drank yesterday I was not as pleased as normally. Didn't have so much drive to drink. Was rather forcing it a little as I wanted to get a buzz.

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 Post subject: Re: Progress begin 23. Apr. 2009
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4 units today

Drank it slowly today. Very often I have drunk a lot of units within 10 minutes or lower. Not the case today.
Because of the mucosal of my mouth that are hurting I am drinking slow and keeping it in the mouth in order to desinfect :-)

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 Post subject: Re: Progress begin 23. Apr. 2009
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4 units today

feeling quite sober

I noticed that I am taking my live into my hands more than usually. Was cleaning up some mess that I left laying around in my life for quite some time.
Nal is giving me back piece by piece my life with all its pros and negs.

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 Post subject: Re: Progress begin 23. Apr. 2009
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Week 1
........Mon, 20.04. pre-SM AF
........Tue, 21.04. pre-SM AF
........Wed, 22.04. pre-SM AF
........Thu, 23.04. 5.7 units (SM Start 25mg Nal)
........Fri, 24.04. 6 units
........Sat, 25.04. AF
........Sun, 26.04. 5 units

........Total units : 16.7 units
........AF days : 4
........avg. units per drinking session : 5.6

Week 2
........Mon, 27.04. 5 units
........Tue, 28.04. AF
........Wed, 29.04. 5 units
........Thu, 30.04. AF
........Fri, 01.05. AF
........Sat, 02.05. AF
........Sun, 03.05. 1.5 units

........Total units : 11.5 units
........AF days : 4
........avg. units per drinking session : 3.8

Week 3
........Mon, 04.05. AF
........Tue, 05.05. 1.5 units (switch to 50mg Nal)
........Wed, 06.05. AF
........Thu, 07.05. 1.5 units
........Fri, 08.05. 1 unit
........Sat, 09.05. AF
........Sun, 10.05. AF

........Total units : 4 units
........AF days : 4
........avg. units per drinking session : 1.3

Week 4
........Mon, 11.05. 1 unit
........Tue, 12.05. AF
........Wed, 13.05. AF
........Thu, 14.05. 3 units
........Fri, 15.05. AF
........Sat, 16.05. AF
........Sun, 17.05. 5 units

........Total units : 9 units
........AF days : 4
........avg. units per drinking session : 3.0

Week 5
........Mon, 18.05. AF
........Tue, 19.05. 1 unit
........Wed, 20.05. 4 units
........Thu, 21.05. AF
........Fri, 22.05. 4 units
........Sat, 23.05. AF
........Sun, 24.05. AF

........Total units : 9 units
........AF days : 4
........avg. units per drinking session : 3.0

Week 6
........Mon, 25.05. 5 units
........Tue, 26.05. AF
........Wed, 27.05. AF
........Thu, 28.05. AF
........Fri, 29.05. 4 units
........Sat, 30.05. AF
........Sun, 31.05. 4 units

........Total units : 13 units
........AF days : 4
........avg. units per drinking session : 4.3

Week 7
........Mon, 01.06. AF
........Tue, 02.06. 5 units
........Wed, 03.06. 4 units
........Thu, 04.06. AF
........Fri, 05.06. 3 units
........Sat, 06.06. AF
........Sun, 07.06. AF


........Total units : 12 units
........AF days : 4
........avg. units per drinking session : 4.0

Week 8
........Mon, 08.06. 4 units
........Tue, 09.06. AF
........Wed, 10.06. 4 units
........Thu, 11.06. AF
........Fri, 12.06. 5 units
........Sat, 13.06. AF
........Sun, 14.06. 5 units


........Total units : 19 units
........AF days : 3
........avg. units per drinking session : 4.5

Week 9
........Mon, 15.06. AF
........Tue, 16.06. 5 units
........Wed, 17.06. 4 units
........Thu, 18.06. AF
........Fri, 19.06. 6 units
........Sat, 20.06. 7 units
........Sun, 21.06. AF


........Total units : 22 units
........AF days : 3
........avg. units per drinking session : 5.5

Week 10
........Mon, 22.06. 6 units
........Tue, 23.06. 5 units
........Wed, 24.06. 5 units
........Thu, 25.06. AF
........Fri, 26.06. AF
........Sat, 27.06. AF
........Sun, 28.06. 5 units


........Total units : 21 units
........AF days : 3
........avg. units per drinking session : 5.3

Week 11
........Mon, 29.06. 5 units
........Tue, 30.06. 6 units
........Wed, 01.07. AF
........Thu, 02.07. 4 units
........Fri, 03.07. 4 units
........Sat, 04.07. AF
........Sun, 05.07. 5 units


........Total units : 24 units
........AF days : 2
........avg. units per drinking session : 4.8

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