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 Post subject: Re: New try
PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:19 am 
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Here nor there, but I did obtain some Nalmefene while in the United Kingdom the summer.

It is at least as effective as Naltrexone, but the dreams and other side effects were horrendous.

as a matter of fact I have about 50 Nalmefene tablets I'll probably try to giveaway in the near future.


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 Post subject: Re: New try
PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:42 am 
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girlamsterdam I hope the fog of depression lifts soon, I know how awful that can make you feel.

Sounds like you have time on your hands though, and though I'm not sure what the weather is like where you are or if you have an exercise routine, But I'd suggest making yourself get up and get outdoors. a walk in the woods or a park (I always try to take one of my dogs) might lift your spirits. And the exercise might help you sleep.

That said I'm not sure who I am to be giving advice in the sleep department. I'm in my second week on Naltrexone and reduced consumption and Up every night at 1 AM anxious about all kinds of stupid stuff. Last night I just gave up trying and went and read for an hour..........All I can say is that others report that months into the process sleep patterns improve, and for me, that's a light at the end of a tunnel that I've been stuck in for a long long time.


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 Post subject: Re: New try
PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 3:02 pm 
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Hi Girlamsterdam! You were so helpful to me earlier this year when I first tried nal. Well, I am back, too! It's a shame you are having those side effects. I don't recall having any sleeping problems in addition to my usual ones.. well, we'll see since I just took .25 mg to get me started. I'll be following and rooting for ya!

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 Post subject: Re: New try
PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 1:55 pm 
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Well, happy New Year everybody! I reinstated on my benzo 9 mg of diazepam after going cold turkey and experiencing so many side effects that starting nalmefene/naltrexone at the same time seemed too intense. I kept drinking though, so that might not have helped with the side effects of tapering of the benzo.

I am tapering now more slowly and trying to moderate my intake of alcohol. As new years resolutions, I am seeing a direct interference between tapering too fast with the benzo, taking alcohol and feeling like I did. I do not want this anymore, want my life to go back to normal and have my energy back. I know the benzo withdrawal symptoms will subside and that's why I have been able to moderate my alcohol intake as well, also because my most important problem with not being compliant was because I took alcohol during the night to continue to sleep.

And finally, the quarter has fallen; I will never be able to sleep normal again if I keep using benzo's and alcohol, because it is no real sleep. If I persevere, my sleep will return back to normal, and I wil be able to use naltrexone/nalmefene in a normal way.

If I keep disturbing my feelings with benzo's/too much alcohol, I will not know my own feelings/not return to my normal self.

I will keep drinking like this, I will use my youthfull appearance and not by age, but by doing it to myself.

If I will continue, I will not be able to fulfill my dreams and get everything life which I want from it.

I don't necessarily want to abstain, but absolutely want to be indifferent about the amount/not consciously think about it.

I can do this, as my alcohol abuse has only been about 4 years since losing my ability to sleep. I want to stop sabotaging myself in 2015!


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 Post subject: Re: New try
PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 4:25 pm 
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great stuff GA. it sounds like you have the drive to get off the benzo's & on to TSM, which is the most important thing. I totally get the sleep thing - I've been using AL to sleep for years & that's what I'm really struggling with at the moment as I try to cut down/get some AF days

good luck - you know there are plenty of us on here supporting each other, be sure to reach out for help when you need it

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 Post subject: Re: New try
PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 8:12 am 
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Hi all,

Thanks to a spray which helps against dry mouth I had a decent night of sleep without nightmares and since I got up, I have ran, did abs workout, cleaned my house, paid my bills, and I only had 1 unit last night! The night before that 2 and with New Years about 6. So since I have reinstated the Naltrexone, it has worked very well!

I had Nalfemene before, but it has sleeplessness as a side effect and I want to avoid that at all cost now. Tonight I have a party, so I will take my Nal in advance and keep it moderate. It feels so much better!


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 Post subject: Re: New try
PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:49 pm 
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girlamsterdam I too have trouble sleeping and use Al to help me sleep only finding it gives me a very interrupted sleep. I also have dry mouth/eyes from Sjogrens syndrome, what spray are you using for dry mouth?
Sounds like you are on a good path....


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 Post subject: Re: New try
PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 4:57 pm 
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Hello all,

I have decided since last week to track units again, I am on 6 mg diazepam per night now and also trying to set my limits to 3 drinks on a normal night and 5 on a night out.

Tonight, it took me 6 hours to nurse 3 moderate glasses of wine. The habit I have to kick, is the impulsive sluggish drinking when not sleeping and in fear/panicking. At this moment I still have side effects of sleeping in small pieces (max 2 hours in a row) and having a lot of nightmares and feel really emotionally numbed in a certain way, although I can my feelings return to normal bit by bit.

So, untill now I have been able to stick to my habit for more than a week, although no AF yet, but maybe that's not attainable untill I have totally tapered of my Diazepam.

Anyone else experience with tapering with benzo's and taking Naltrexone? I have to convince my GP on Monday that she has to give me a new recipe...

@ Cheeto; the spray I use is something with the name X in it... It is sold in Europe, not in the US I believe, but I bought it at a regular pharmacy without a prescription...


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 Post subject: Re: New try
PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:45 am 
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Follow the protocol religiously, be brave, be persistent and and don't give up until you have reached your goal. Lastly, remember that Naltrexone efficacy is not related pleasure. Good luck and Namaste!


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