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 Post subject: Re: Girlamsterdam is going to try this!
PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 11:58 pm 
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Well, the wedding went OK and I had a good time. Seven glasses of wine taken over a period from 1500 untill 0200 AM. However, when I came home from the wedding yesterday afternoon I finished a bottle on my own in the end of the afternoon, fell asleep around 2100 PM and woke up around 0130 not being able to sleep further, sweating and very agitated.

How many units is one bottle (0,75 litre)?

Today (in one hour) I have to play a hockey match and after that, I participate in the Color Run, that should be fun :-)


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 Post subject: Re: Girlamsterdam is going to try this!
PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 5:56 pm 
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Gutenmorgen girl,

Trouble sleeping plagues 85% of the drunks I know. For me, benadryl does wonders. Also good is Kava Kava tea - though there are reports of liver issues with this... The link isn't definite, and there is some thought that maybe impure Kava caused all the issues, but when I have it I don't mix it with alcohol at all. Finally, the hardest but likely healthiest and most rewarding way of dealing with insomnia is to force yourself to wake up earlier, and do 1.5 hours of vigorous exercise in the evening, then to make sure you don't watch any TV and start turning down/off all the lights a couple hours before you sleep. That's a pain in the ass though, so I usually default to the benadryl..

Hoping your nal gets to you soon. Many people find that an extended AF stretch before starting nal helps A LOT. It can help you re-define your relationship with the sauce before starting this process. If you can manage it, it might be a really nice thing for you to do for yourself.

best of luck!!

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 Post subject: Re: Girlamsterdam is going to try this!
PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 4:52 am 
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Thank you Generic so much for your response. It is a stress related problem with me, as soon as I feel the stress coming in, I can't sleep... but I've had much trouble sleeping since I had a maniac depressive boyfriend for 5 years, we broke up 4 years ago...

Now I'm building my life for myself again, which involves buying a house (tomorrow morning I have the signing, which on the one hand makes me very happy :D :D :D ), but on the other hand terrifies me because I will be stuck (I like my freedom, travelling, deciding things my own).

However, I love my job, have survived two reorganizations (that's how life in banking is nowadays), and am reconsidering my career a little bit. Do I want to live this life forever? Do I want to keep potential partners away? That's what I do, I want to protect myself so I say kindof 'Goodbye' as soon as someone is coming too close to me.

Hope my Nal gets in soon, before my holiday, 12th of June, to Morocco, for a week surfing... And if not if I come back.

Only I have all summer season weddings now and all in coming weeks...


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 Post subject: Re: Girlamsterdam is going to try this!
PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:38 am 
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Hi all,

And here we are one week further, and haven't received my nal yet... It can still take a week or so. Lately, I have been drinking more than I want and have less control over the amount. Last sunday, I drank 1,5 bottle in one day...

That may not be like the amounts some of you can take, but for me it is increasingly much more then I normally took.

Also, it is not only when I have trouble sleeping but I seem to have more appetite for alcohol then I used to. Hope my nal gets here before my holiday, I am leaving in one week to Morocco for 8 days...

All in all it takes about 4 weeks to arrive here, now hope that customs will not make any trouble...

Have a great day all!


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 Post subject: Re: Girlamsterdam is going to try this!
PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:15 pm 
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Your liver cares about the amount of alcohol you drink, but your life and your relationships only care about the amount of control you have.

A bottle and a half was kinda nothing to me in the past (it's a lot now), but if that is enough to make you feel out of control and you can't seem to slow down, or wonder the next day why you went that far when you had planned not to... well.. that's a problem. The same problem I had. The same problem that brought us all here.

I am hoping you pills get to you soon. You will find some relief soon GA

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 Post subject: Re: Girlamsterdam is going to try this!
PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:49 am 
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Thanks Generic, for your answer. Of course I realize that for me it is a problem, because it is not about the amount, but the fact I do not feel comfortable with that.

To my great surprise, my delivery already got in today! So as the weather is sunny and warm here, I will be going to the park in an hour, and as I'm going with friends, probably some prosecco will be available. So I took my first 25 mg portion with a sandwich, and I will keep u posted about the effects this evening!

Very curious. Oh, is the brand Naltima a good one?


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 Post subject: Re: Girlamsterdam is going to try this!
PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:57 am 
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Well, the first two days on Nal were very good! Saturday took the pill (25 mg) when going to the park with friends, I didn't go nauseous, but felt a kind of full. Took one little plastic cup of wine only. After that, in the evening, went to a BBQ with friends and took me two hours to down one glass! After that had two other glasses over the course of 3 more hours, so all in all a very good day.

Yesterday had a reunion and did not drink untill 9 PM, and it did not cost me any effort. When I got home, it took me two hours to have two glasses of wine, which I took out of habit to fall asleep, but slept very well!

It seems like the Nal slows me down because I feel very full suddenly and it also seems to get me more tipsy with lesser amount of alcohol than usual.

So far, a few questions:
For European units, how much is one bottle of 75cl of wine, aka a standard bottle?
What is your experience with Naltima?
What is your experience with going on holiday and taking pills with you? (causing problems at customs?)


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 Post subject: Re: Girlamsterdam is going to try this!
PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:52 am 
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To answer the second question, Naltima is good stuff from my experience. Very fast acting and effective. I don't know enough to answer the other two.

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 Post subject: Re: Girlamsterdam is going to try this!
PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:18 am 
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Welcome Girlamsterdam! I too have used wine/alcohol in order to sleep and have been working with a doc to help with this and to get off the sauce. One thing my doc suggested that hasn't been addressed by other members is to use magnesium to calm the nerves (even during the day). Another thing that has worked for me in the past to sleep is a meditation CD. It looks like you are responding to the Nal. Remember you are in this for the long haul . I wish you great success with TSM. Keek

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 Post subject: Re: Girlamsterdam is going to try this!
PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:51 am 
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Hi all! After my first week, thought I would post an update (from Morocco!).
All taken together, it had been going well. I am in à surfhouse here, I can only get alcohol in the house here, not in other places and did not bring anything with me. Also, I am in the sea all day and get up fairly early (8am).

My unit count;
Sat 6
Sun 8
Mon 6
Tue 7
Wed 4,5
Thu 3
Fri 2,5

I have been in morocco since wednesday.

I will post more later!


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