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 Post subject: Re: Half a glass of wine weekly progress since 12/1/10
PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 2:36 pm 
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Wow, that's quite a change. I can see why you are so ecstatic. Good on you!! Newlife

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 Post subject: Re: Half a glass of wine weekly progress since 12/1/10
PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:38 pm 
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Hi All - Back again. When I last posted a couple of years ago I said I was starting back on nal as I had gotten up to 3 glasses of white wine a night. I didn't start nal although I did order it. I stayed at the three glasses until last July and then one night I had four glasses so that's where I stayed and restarted nal in early September. I have taken it religiously since with no reduction in my drinking and sometimes more than four glasses.

I've decided to start posting again as it seems I am still the very slow responder. Because of that I need support. Nal was such an interesting experience for me. I had never drank anything but red wine, particularly Pinot Noir. I also didn't start that until I was 51 years old at a half a glass of wine...hence my moniker. After 9 years of that I was up to a bottle or more of wine a day. After being on nal for one year I developed such a revulsion to red wine I didn't like to look at it or smell it. I still feel that way. That was when I switched to white wine and seven months later I stopped drinking it except occasionally out to dinner. I did not develop a revulsion to it though. I still enjoyed drinking white wine albeit with nal. After about a year of that I ran out of nal and would have the occasional glass out to dinner without nal. A year later I became a daily drinker again at two glasses. Then a year later at three glasses. Then last July four glasses.

I've only been taking nal for six and a half months. I've seen no progress at all. I keep wondering if I stay the course the same thing will happen with white wine that happened with red...it will become repulsive. Then I would finally become the non drinker I've so longed to be for the last ten years. I have no interest in any other alcoholic beverages and the closest I've come to imbibing in those is kaluha on ice cream a handful of times over several years.

I'm going to try for an AF today. The first I will have had in two and a half years. Wish me luck.


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 Post subject: Re: Half a glass of wine weekly progress since 12/1/10
PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:24 am 
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Best wishes, Half!

Some suggestions:

Wait till you have a clear craving for a glass of wine, apply the Golden Rule, then slowly start your first glass as close to an hour after the Nal as possible. Keep the craving and the first sip on Nal closely coupled.

Try keeping your glass of wine in another room (and out of your sight) so you have to get up and fetch it for each sip. As it's white wine, you might even want to keep it in the fridge. This gives the conscious part of your brain extra time to pop up and ponder whether or not you really want that next sip. I know it sounds funny, but it introduces a mindful aspect to drinking that's more present when you have to do something aside from bending your elbow to take another sip. Do keep an NA drink close by you though. Maybe even throw in some small chores/tasks in between sips to throw in another diversion. You may find that you forget about that glass of wine for longer than you thought you would.

Another way to slow things down might be a wine/soda mix, like a Kalimoxto, with plenty of ice in it.

In any case, keep on letting us know how you're getting along!

This board has been up and down, sometimes slowing so much that posting becomes difficult. There's another TSM/Medication Assisted Treatment board at http://optionssavelives.freeforums.net, so check that one out too! It seems to be the more lively of the two these days.


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 Post subject: Re: Half a glass of wine weekly progress since 12/1/10
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:57 pm 
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Hi Joe - Thanks for the tip. I didn't make my AF day but trying again tonight. My goal since joining this forum and starting TSM was to return to a non drinker which I was for the majority of my adult life. Like Springerrider said years ago TSM slows the train down so you can jump off. That's what I want to do. Hopefully, today is the day. The last time I was on TSM and declared myself cured I went from 25 glasses of wine a week to two after just a few days AF but it took my 17 months for my first AF. I've noticed lately the cravings are nearly gone but I still start drinking my white wine at 5:00 and then I consume a lot. So I'll report back in on my AF day that I'm planning today.

I checked out the other forum. Thanks for the tip. Cindy.


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 Post subject: Re: Half a glass of wine weekly progress since 12/1/10
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:58 pm 
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I read all of your posts on your thread along with some of the others. I know you read mine, but I want to add a couple of things that aren't really pertinent to anything.

Way before I started TSM, my favorite beer, Miller Lite, one day, 3 years ago, became absolutely revolting to me, along with all other lagers. I haven't had a lager in a year and accidentally bought a six pack this week. Still makes me gag and literally want to puke.

I am now at almost a year. Your story gives me hope. I often wonder if there is a switch that flips for everyone. It seems like people's charts read 50, 50, 30, 30, 30, 10, 0 or some such. It seems I've been at 25-30 since December. I keep saying an AF day is coming, but I get terrified at the thought. And it doesn't make sense. It's not the thought of not drinking. It's definitely not the thought of not being drunk as that happens so rarely now. I think it's the thought that once I start stopping, I will continue stopping and no longer drink. It's the same fear I would get when I thought about quitting smoking. Then, one day, I decided I was going to quit smoking in a couple of weeks. I set a date and smoked every cigarette in town until my quit day. Then I quit. I actually dropped my last cigarette, half smoked, in a puddle. 2:53pm 1/08/2012. I laughed. Ever since then, it was never about quitting smoking. I was never "trying to quit". I just wasn't a smoker. It worked. I had one episode 2 weeks in where I called in to work sick for 2 days because I knew if I left, I'd buy a pack and smoke them all. That was it. It's been 5+ years without one. BUT. I know if I made a bad decision, I could smoke a pack tomorrow. I still dream about smoking. I still enjoy the smell now and again. I never broke the addiction--I just quit. That's why I am trying to take this as it comes. I want an AF day. And I know that I could get them going. But it would just be out of keeping a streak alive. Anyway, I'm rambling and it's time for bed and not drinking the 6 pack I still have in the fridge--unheard of a year ago. Welcome back. I'm glad you have this to get you back on track. Let me know if I can help in any way.

(btw, I feel a certain connection because I was born in Denver General. Grew up in Littleton until 1987. Also lived in Parker in 2002. I'll live in CO again, one day.)


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