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 Post subject: If you question TSM you could loose your job and be sued
PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:03 am 
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Just so you all know what you might be in for. When I found, on youtube, an interview with Claudia Christian from Dec. 2012 drunk out of her mind telling people how she was "cured" of alcohol addiction by TSM I emailed her for her side of the story. I emailed her and Gary (the guy who runs Naltrexone Confidential) in a very polite manner. I live in Australia, they in the USA and UK.

Firstly, I was threatened with legal action by Christian - for no other reason than I caught her out. Then I find that a complaint has been made to my workplace threatening my job!!!

If this is how people react to being questioned about THEIR behaviour on TSM, then one must ask about the whole thing.

I will make it my business to alert people to these two and the interview that shows I am right!

If this is TSM then I am its enemy!


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 Post subject: Re: If you question TSM you could loose your job and be sued
PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:00 am 
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I havent seen the video and dont care to. Sounds like voyeurism into someone's personal failure.

What are you trying to do? Do you think you are going to blow the story wide open? What's there to add? A former/current drunk went off their meds and... got drunk. Yep, there you have it folks.

Alert the media.

I hope TSM is bigger than a few, probably deeply, flawed charcters.

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 Post subject: Re: If you question TSM you could loose your job and be sued
PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:40 am 
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DaveAus wrote:
Just so you all know what you might be in for. When I found, on youtube, an interview with Claudia Christian from Dec. 2012 drunk out of her mind telling people how she was "cured" of alcohol addiction by TSM I emailed her for her side of the story. I emailed her and Gary (the guy who runs Naltrexone Confidential) in a very polite manner. I live in Australia, they in the USA and UK.

Firstly, I was threatened with legal action by Christian - for no other reason than I caught her out. Then I find that a complaint has been made to my workplace threatening my job!!!

If this is how people react to being questioned about THEIR behaviour on TSM, then one must ask about the whole thing.

I will make it my business to alert people to these two and the interview that shows I am right!

If this is TSM then I am its enemy!


It's unlikely that you will lose your job because someone complained about something you said online. You weren't badmouthing your employer, so whey would your employer care?

Unless your employer is a huge Claudia Christian fan, maybe, but there aren't very many of those.

Why would you think that "this is TSM"? That doesn't even make sense.

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 Post subject: Re: If you question TSM you could loose your job and be sued
PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:48 am 
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sideeffect2 wrote:
I havent seen the video and dont care to. Sounds like voyeurism into someone's personal failure.

What are you trying to do? Do you think you are going to blow the story wide open? What's there to add? A former/current drunk went off their meds and... got drunk. Yep, there you have it folks.

Alert the media.

I hope TSM is bigger than a few, probably deeply, flawed charcters.


The potential issue is One Little Pill, the documentary which is suppose to give TSM a bigger slice of public attention. A lot of people have donated, and a lot of people could potentially be reached by it.

If everyone had to keep the star's continued heavy drinking under wraps, it would be bad. That would essentially be impossible. It would inevitably lead to "Ha! See, AA is the only thing that actually works!"

I currently have no position on whether or not she is relapsed or just had an irresponsible night. If the former . . . enh, well, at least I'm still cured, and I can tell others if they need the info. If the latter, that would be good to establish because it would help the documentary's credibility and potentially allow the information to reach more people.

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 Post subject: Re: If you question TSM you could loose your job and be sued
PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:51 am 
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DaveAus wrote:

If this is how people react to being questioned about THEIR behaviour on TSM, then one must ask about the whole thing.



That's not "people." That's one actress and one guy who is known to be kind of weird. You can question me about my behavior all you like. :)

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 Post subject: Re: If you question TSM you could loose your job and be sued
PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:57 pm 
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Any publicity is good publicity.

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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinforcement

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:07 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: If you question TSM you could loose your job and be sued
PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:45 am 
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If this is how people react to being questioned about THEIR behaviour on TSM, then one must ask about the whole thing.


This is just the reaction of two people who advocate TSM. It bears no relation to TSM as a whole. There are many, many people for whom TSM has been hugely beneficial....life changing, and in some cases life saving. If the scientific evidence, trials and research done by Dr. Sinclair were proved to be false or that Dr. Eskapa had lied somehow, then I could see your point. But it hasn't, so what's your beef?

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I will make it my business to alert people to these two and the interview that shows I am right!


I really cannot understand why you would do that. By doing it, you may put people off of trying TSM. Maybe that's what you hope to achieve? For whatever reason, this method hasn't worked for you but it seems unfair to discourage others from trying it...especially as it has such a high success rate. If just one person doesn't try it that could have been cured...well, I couldn't live with that on my conscious.


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If this is TSM then I am its enemy!


This isn't TSM. This is two people that you don't particularly like or respect. TSM is Dr. Sinclair, Dr. Eskapa and the huge number of people on this board who have found that it helps them cut out or cut down their drinking.


If history had reported Marie Curie as being a horrible individual would you refuse an x-ray for a broken leg?

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 Post subject: Re: If you question TSM you could loose your job and be sued
PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:16 am 
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Ruthy wrote:
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If this is how people react to being questioned about THEIR behaviour on TSM, then one must ask about the whole thing.


This is just the reaction of two people who advocate TSM. It bears no relation to TSM as a whole. There are many, many people for whom TSM has been hugely beneficial....life changing, and in some cases life saving. If the scientific evidence, trials and research done by Dr. Sinclair were proved to be false or that Dr. Eskapa had lied somehow, then I could see your point. But it hasn't, so what's your beef?

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I will make it my business to alert people to these two and the interview that shows I am right!


I really cannot understand why you would do that. By doing it, you may put people off of trying TSM. Maybe that's what you hope to achieve? For whatever reason, this method hasn't worked for you but it seems unfair to discourage others from trying it...especially as it has such a high success rate. If just one person doesn't try it that could have been cured...well, I couldn't live with that on my conscious.


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If this is TSM then I am its enemy!


This isn't TSM. This is two people that you don't particularly like or respect. TSM is Dr. Sinclair, Dr. Eskapa and the huge number of people on this board who have found that it helps them cut out or cut down their drinking.


If history had reported Marie Curie as being a horrible individual would you refuse an x-ray for a broken leg?


Blah blah blah. I'm just letting people know about the interview of someone drunk saying they are "cured" of alcohol addiction! Then when I ask them about it very politely they threaten my job and me with legal action!

People should hear that interview before making up their mind about TSM. Some people are such babies, one person on this website said they had a drinking problem drinking 25 units a week, I could do that in two days, standing on my head whistling "Dixie" out my arse!

Most people here, myself too, are not true alcoholics (something that is rear) but simply heavy drinkers.


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 Post subject: Re: If you question TSM you could loose your job and be sued
PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:43 am 
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''Blah Blah Blah''

Seriously, Dave??????????????

You are such a people person (not). Way to go on dismissing Ruthy the same way you dismissed me on a previous thread. You really don't like anyone asking for your views as to why, do you? Kind of ironic that, considering you keep saying you were asking for information on that video.

And as for you 'politely' asking for info on this video.....well, quite frankly with the way you respond to people on this forum, it is EXTREMELY DIFFICULT IF NOT IMPOSSIBLE to imagine you being polite to anybody!

Obviously, TSM has not worked for you and I am sorry about that (really, I am).

But why not do us all a favour and disappear off this forum that is a TSM forum for people interested in TSM?

Oh, and to be in trouble with your employer probably means you were/are probably using a computer owned by the company you work for. Tut, tut, tut.


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