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 Post subject: Re: Dr. Eskapa's announcement
PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 3:03 pm 
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I've posted this on Dr Eskapa's thread, but here it is too:

there was a bit of a kerfuffle on the C3 forum a while back about how this forum was perpetuating incorrect information about Nodict being time-release & not suitable for TSM (it isn't time-release & it is suitable). I suspect this is what the good Dr was referring to

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 Post subject: Re: Dr. Eskapa's announcement
PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 6:28 pm 
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Oh I see. Well all I can say about that is that I read that thread before I was even a member here and quite frankly it's why I didn't order that brand. However; if i remember correctly reading through that thread it was cleared up t the end that it was just bunch of bad info.

That thread should probably be removed or sticky added clearing it up imho.

None the less this is a valuable community of people going through TSM. Misinformation will ALWAYS happen on a message board.


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 Post subject: Re: Dr. Eskapa's announcement
PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 7:04 pm 
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Agree. I feel this forum is not so much about question/answer or religious interpretation of Eskaba's book as it is about honest, heart-felt, loving support. For that I will be grateful long after I drink my last drink.
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 Post subject: Re: Dr. Eskapa's announcement
PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 7:20 pm 
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Ditto what Steve said.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 7:09 am 
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One thing I didn't like reading on that other website was because of our not following the book to a letter we don't have as many people listed as "cured"... :( :x ...but I feel we are more supportive and accepting...beside who is to say that once people gain control they don't list themselves as cured; instead, they run as far away from this memory as fast as they can!

Another thing that I didn't like reading is that they claim that at the 10 to 11 month mark that if it is not working then that person should look for another alternative. How many people did you see become cured and it took longer than a year!

I think that more research needs to be done on this process, and nothing is black and white!


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 8:21 am 
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jaba wrote:
One thing I didn't like reading on that other website was because of our not following the book to a letter we don't have as many people listed as "cured"... :( :x ...but I feel we are more supportive and accepting...beside who is to say that once people gain control they don't list themselves as cured; instead, they run as far away from this memory as fast as they can!

Another thing that I didn't like reading is that they claim that at the 10 to 11 month mark that if it is not working then that person should look for another alternative. How many people did you see become cured and it took longer than a year!

I think that more research needs to be done on this process, and nothing is black and white!


The whole cured concept is very misleading in my opinion and I give it no emphasis whatsoever. Steve is absolutely right we are not scientists here we are human beings reaching out to other human beings for support with an issue that "outsiders" do not understand. I certainly don't see us as claiming to have all the answers and it is hilarious to me that he could have gotten so upset and lashed out. Very unprofessional. It made me wonder if it is really him. Maybe he is P Oed because if someone reads this forum they will quickly realize that the time frames given in the book are just plain wrong. Newlife

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 8:49 am 
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newlife wrote:
Maybe he is P Oed because if someone reads this forum they will quickly realize that the time frames given in the book are just plain wrong. Newlife


Excellent point newlife...wouldn't be nice if we all achieve control in three months...that would be a sweet dream!


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 11:15 am 
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jaba wrote:
newlife wrote:
Maybe he is P Oed because if someone reads this forum they will quickly realize that the time frames given in the book are just plain wrong. Newlife


Excellent point newlife...wouldn't be nice if we all achieve control in three months...that would be a sweet dream!


I think it would be a miracle and EVERYONE would be doing it !

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