Hi there - I do not know how to send you the graph/spreadsheet that Badger sent me without taking all my stuff off of it - I had a problem sending it to him when I needed it being made longer ! I am getting ready for work right now but will try and have a go when I get home this afternoon.

Hugs, Maggie x

LoveMyMan,

I just saw an app for tracking on the st. sinclair method. It doesn't come in smart phone (I don't think) it was an older post on the other site. I will try to send a link if I can find it on an app store.

Jaba

I hope this link will get to to the app


http://slideme.org/application/tsm-tracker

another app


https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... roid&hl=en

Thank you so much- the TSM app looks perfect!

Maggie- don't worry about the graph-it looks like the app makes one for you.

Jaba- the pharmacy info was very helpful, thanks. If anyone comes across any other information about benzos and Nal, please send my way. I'm hoping that spreading them out will make a difference.

I'm excited about this week and the tracking. I had told him that he needed to start thinking about AF days here and there, but I recanted that last night. I think just tracking and drinking slower for now to take pressure off of him and let the Nal do it's job.

Another question: Last night he took his Nal so he could have a beer or 2 when he got home. It was late an he said he really could have gone without, but since he already took it, he thought he should have one anyway. I read in the book, especially at first: take it and drink. Are there any negative effects of taking it and then deciding not to drink?

Okay - I have a heck of a problem with the TSM app on the computer and cannot find it on my smart phone .... and no, if you take the Nal and then do not drink there are no negative effects - it is pretty much a waste of a Nal..... but no other worries ....

Hugs, Maggie x

lovemyman he might benefit from the things you are doing right now in order to get the best benefit. It could help to become a member of this forum or other forums and start talking. Reading others stories and telling your own helps a lot. Knowledge is power. He needs to read and understand the book and or any other literature out there on the subject. It helps to have this knowledge of what is going on as you progress.

I did cocaine for about 4 years when I was young and dumb. The funny thing about that is that I gave it up because all I need was drinking. In comparison drinking was nothing compared to Cocaine but after 20 years of doing it the similarities are incredible. As a former Coke user he probably knows what I am talking about. And oh boy could you drink a lot of booze in one night of a coke binge. Being an addict is understanding how it works. Alcohol just like Coke is all about that first hit. The first line was always the best one and then after that you spend all night till the birds start chirping chasing it. You may even spend a couple days chasing it. Alcohol is the same. That first drink is the best, it's the one that cures the self inflicted illness from the night, week, years before it. After that it's a chase into the oblivion.

For me Naltrexone completely cut that off within one week. I'm one of those lucky fast responders but anyway...

Ocean,
Thank you for taking the time to tell me that-and you are right, he does need to read and get on here. I'm being patient though. Going to the Dr. and getting the script for Nal was a big step.
I do think he is kind of hoping it will be a magic pill and just do it all for him. He did notice a big difference in the beginning with the craving decreasing and that initial rush missing. he said he finally understood why alcohol was considered a depressant.
However, as Jaba explained to me, the honeymoon phase is over. He is beginning to track with the app-today. I have it set so all he does is click for every tall Budweiser. He has a button for short lite beers-but he doesn't go for those often.

He understands being an addict very well. The more I read on here and Options Save Lives, the more I get it. He is an endorphin junkie. He has always had to be taking risks-biking, rock climbing, kayaking. His whole life. He is 48 years old, drinks 6-12 tall ones a night, smokes when he drinks, smokes other all the time, and he could out paddle, peddle, or climb any 25 year old today. He is smart as hell and does his job well. His relationship with his son and me (and because he knows he needs to do it for himself, of course) is the only motivation.

I'm reading about the DHM and GABA now. I'm not going to suggest anything like that just yet though. He is seeing his Dr. this week.

He doesn't care that he doesn't get the rush he used to, or maybe he is still getting somewhat of a rush since he takes the klonopin. Maybe he has so many of those receptors that the 50 mg of NAL isn't going to cut it. I don't know. He still loves getting his buzz though. I really hope that tracking helps this week.

He's not going to read this while he is drinking, and the first thing he does after work is open a beer. Not much time to squeeze in learning more about this...yet. Hopefully when the drinking slows down he will be interested in this. We'll see.

Thank you so much for sharing- and for all of you that just GET IT.

LMM,

Your man sounds a lot like me as far as his daily drinking goes. Or should I say it sounds like what I used to be like on a daily basis before NAL. I could not wait to have that first one. Whether it was at lunch, at quitting time or maybe even at breakfast. Little vodka with the OJ helps start the day. But after several months on NAL I am starting to get control of the day to day stuff.

And it sounds like he is starting to feel the effects of taking the NAL because for at least that one night he really did not have the craving to have the Bud after taking the pill. That is what happened to me after a couple of weeks. And shortly after that I read a post that mentioned that when that started happening you should wait until you really wanted a drink and then take the pill and start the 1 hour timer. I did that and was surprised that I was slipping in an Alcohol free (AF) day here and there when I never really got to the point of craving a drink so no need to take the pill.

It sounds like your man is probably taking the pill an hour before he gets off work so he can pop that Bud on his way home or as soon as he comes through the door. When you think he is ready for it - ask him to not take the pill before he gets home a couple of times a week and see what happens. he may get involved in something other than drinking when he comes in the door and forget about his habit of having that first one.

On a side note: I was under the impression that if you took the pill you should have at least one drink. I may be wrong on that and I am sure someone will help us out with that. I know Maggie has said there is no harm - but I thought it was discouraged to take a pill and then not drink. Anyone out there care to help us out on that?

Reboot,

For the first month they suggest to at least take a couple of sips, BUT it does not hurt your progress of extinction. Like Maggie said it is just a waste of a pill.

Jaba