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 Post subject: Naltrexone not available
PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 5:12 am 
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Hallo, I have read through the other posts but couldn't get advice on my problem: I live in South Africa and the doctors cannot prescribe this drug for me since it's literally not available here. Did anyone find a similiar problem? What I could manage is to find an online pharmacy here but I don't know if this is legal/trustworthy because it costs $316 + for 60 tablets and I can't afford to pay online then finding out it was a scam. Please help, I really want to use these meds!

What I found is that there are doctors who are doing the Naltrexone implants here. It is a slow releasing drug to help people from heroin addictions mainly but in my case I am seeking for help with alcohol not heroin. HAve there been people who used this on this forum and was it equally successful?


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 Post subject: Re: Naltrexone not available
PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 5:40 am 
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Welcome sue - River Pharmacy is the one that a lot of people use and yes they are legit. Not sure what would happen if customs stopped your parcel though ....it depends on why you cannot get the Nal there. Hopefully someone else will come along and chime in with what I do NOT know. Also - re the implant - you could get it - but it would not be TSM as in take the tablet an hour before drinking - BUT if that was the only way to get it ...... the nal would be in your system and so hopefully work the same when you did have a drink. I am really not sure if that would be the way it would work. Let us know what you decide.

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 Post subject: Re: Naltrexone not available
PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 8:51 am 
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Hi, Sue. I'm not familiar with the process of South Africa with regard to having medication shipped to you, but All Day Chemist is utilized by a lot of people in a lot of places and they don't require a script. Leave the Dr. info black and proceed with the order.

http://www.alldaychemist.com/

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 Post subject: Re: Naltrexone not available
PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:05 am 
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I thought I had read of someone on this forum who had the slow releasing Nal. you are speaking of. While not technically TSM, I think it would be effective as long as you continue to drink as usual. You wouldn't be getting the same high from the alcohol because of the Nal. in your system so you should notice your drinking levels going down over time.
But, I am not completely sure of this, you might want to contact Joanna over on the Options Save Lives forum.

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12-15/ avg 31 - 1
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 Post subject: Re: Naltrexone not available
PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:12 am 
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Sue -

Thanks so much for posting! You're the first from South Africa that I've seen here, glad to hear word of TSM is making it over there!

As far as I know, Naltrexone is a scheduled drug over there. I checked All Day Chemist (a number of people use ADC) and they won't ship to South Africa, so River might have the same policy. It may be scheduled because some think it's an addictive drug, which is far from the truth. Here's a link you might want to look at, they actually mention The Sinclair Method:

http://www.beataddiction.co.za/p/522390 ... e-drinking

It looks promising, but do take care. TSM uses oral Naltrexone right from the start, I really haven't heard of starting out with a depot injection of time release Naltrexon (that's known as Vivitrol here in the US), but as Susie says, you can check with Joanna@CthreeEurope.com about that, as she has the latest info. Now, you may be nowhere near Pretoria, but it might be a good lead in any case. Maybe check with your local pharmacy to see if they carry it and who in your area has prescribed it, if they would give out that type of information.

Do you have a copy of The Cure For Alcoholism by Dr. Eskapa? Here's a link to a free PDF copy:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/60fs7gmvbyzs1 ... m.pdf?dl=0

There's a link to the upper right of that screen that will allow you to download a copy to your computer so you don't have to load it over the internet every time you want to read it. Just download it to your desktop or your documents folder so you can find it easily. Let me know if you have any problems with that.

Welcome, thanks again for joining the community and please keep us up to date on your progress! If you have any questions, fire away and we'll get you an answer.


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 Post subject: Re: Naltrexone not available
PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 4:57 am 
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thank you all for your replies. it means a lot. I looked into the links you all provided and couldn't as yet find any help with that but each one at least educates me better for the next step.
will keep you posted if I found a solution.


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 Post subject: Re: Naltrexone not available
PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:21 am 
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Sue -

The "BeatAddiction" site looked promising. Are they too far away?


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 Post subject: Re: Naltrexone not available
PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:29 pm 
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hallo joe, thank you. I've contacted them several times. What these and similar people are doing, is that they offer an implant only. They do not offer a prescription of the oral medicine. Now also another problem is that they ask an extreme fee, and then there are forums locally who claim they got infections from these implants and then don't receive afterward help. so I'm very skeptical about their help. it sounds like a money making thing where they pick on desperate people. but thank you VERY MUCH for your help.

at the moment I'm trying to consider the pharmacies you people are using, then reshipping services from UK. also am not sure how legit all of these are but it's at least much much cheaper than the online pharmacy I tried for my own country. so I'm going to give it a shot because I'm at a very bad place right now with continuous usage of alcohol (LOTS) so I'm really desperate!

then to add, I went to a doctor on Friday in the hope of trying once more....

he said to me "listen the only way to treat alcoholism is to go to rehab, and not to mention people who are addicted to alcohol usually tend to use more than alcohol so don't be shy to tell me...." then he gave me the telephone number of a psychiatrist and said that my problem sure has underlying issues (who's doesn't! lol) and that I should go see her at once. he simply didn't know what I was talking about when mentioning the sinclair method and wasn't interested at all!


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 Post subject: Re: Naltrexone not available
PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:33 pm 
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Sue -

You might want to check into physicians that offer LDN (Low Dose Naltrexone) which has a grassroots following for things like arthritis, Crohn's disease, etc. It's usually 5mg or less of Nal, made by compounding pharmacies.

Googling that, I find:
http://www.msdietforwomen.com/ldn-2

Wherein a couple of LDN doctors are mentioned, one in Parys:

http://madetobewell.com/contact-us/


A compounding pharmacy that has LDN and 50mg Naltrexone listed:

http://www.compounding.co.za/products/c ... -products/

From a blog:

"POSTED BY: PATRICK | 2014-07-11

Contact Dr. Johan Van Wyk in Northcliff JOhannesburg. He is very familiar with LDN."


Also:

http://www.saams.co.za/Content/Document ... s_2015.pdf

"Antagonist (long-acting): Naltrexone:
Naltrexone (Naltima®) is a specific, orally active, long-acting opioid antagonist. It has a high
affinity for the mu opioid receptor, without any intrinsic activity and thereby effectively
blocks the effects of any abused opioid. Plasma concentrations peak one hour after oral
administration and its half-life varies between 2 and 6 hours. Its active metabolite has a longer
half-life and also has antagonist effects.
Oral Naltrexone is available in South Africa, but extended release Naltrexone formulations
are only available abroad, including injectable (Vivitrol®) or implantable slow release
formulations. These sustained release formulations are not registered in South Africa,
although some individuals import the implants"

Anyway, there's a few things that might turn into a lead.


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 Post subject: Re: Naltrexone not available
PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 7:17 am 
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Joe - you are SO sweet trying to help everyone .....

Hugs, Maggie x

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13: 2 drinks (nearly) for Jan '16 !!!
None since Jan '16 I feel that I can safely say that I am cured!


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