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 Post subject: Talking to your Doctor/Health Care Provider
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:41 pm 
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I would really like to start a dialog on how to best discuss the Sinclair Methods with your doctor. For some, it would be the initial discussion to obtain a prescription. For others, it is how to relate to them your progress. It is important that we get on message as to how to best approach an MD for a prescription. There is a lot to be discussed here and I believe it should be a top level thread.

We have a lot to share. We come from different countries with different laws, regulations and rules.

We are pioneers but if we are to make a change, we have to affect the medical/recovery community. I have decided to approach the Salvation Army after a couple of months. My daughter attends a Christian school and her principal holds a high position with the Salvation Army. I am quite generous with my donation but I think I will cash in a few chips for access.

Since the Salvation Army is a non-profit operation, they would not be threatened by the Sinclair Method as a monetary loss. Of course, they approach recovery through a spiritual realm but wasn’t it the will of God to enlighten David Sinclair?

Look, we can definitely learn from each other’s experience in how to approach MD’s. As we do, we may learn to refine our message to one that is very powerful, non-threatening and consistent.

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Average AF days 6/wk
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I now count days on Nal, rather than drinking days.

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 Post subject: Re: Talking to your Doctor/Health Care Provider
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 3:37 am 
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My only plan at the moment is to wait until I am about 3 months in, I really really should be noticing the benefits and then tell my Nal provider what I have been doing with it, and then see how I go on from there.

I also plan on telling another doctor, who I went to in the past, who did not have a clue on how to help me, (but I think he would have liked to) he did offer me some Antabuse which I refused. I feel he is slightly more humanitarian than the current Nal provider, and might be genuinely interested in the method, whereas I think the Nal provider will forget everything I tell him as soon as I leave the room.

Other than that I don't really have many ideas- just promote the idea and answer as many questions as I can online...I am open to suggestions.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 4:33 am 
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When I heard about the SM, I asked my psychiatrist (who I have being doing CBT with for a few years) to look into it. He was initially sceptical - he had experience of naltrexone many years ago working with heroin addicts and considered it a "horrible" drug - he also didn't like the "science" and had discussed it with a Professor friend of his who specialised in brain chemistry (forget his posh name!), who was also dubious. He generally asked around his medical community and got a thumbs down (esp. from Priory Group - big surprise).

I persisted, gave him as much info as I could, extracts of the book from this site, links to articles, interviews with Dr S, etc. He checked it out more thoroughly - read up on the studies and agreed it was def. worth a shot, though he had some reservations about my mood (habitually low).

I have been checking in with him every day and this morning was delighted to report very big drop in alc last night (with no effort on my part). He responded by saying he was encouraging another patient to try the SM! He is a good doctor and a good man, smart, open-minded and non-judgemental (although being TT himself!). I will be so delighted if his participation in my "experiment" helps pass on the news in the UK.

Sorry to go on - but very optimistic this am.

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Pre-Sinclair 84 units/week (1x75cl bottle white wine=10 units)
Week 1: 71 units - c 8
Week 2: 82 units - c 9
Week 3: 83 units - c 8
Week 4: 103 units - c 8
Week 5: 91 units - c 8
Week 6: 103 units - c 7
Week 7: 91 units - c 7


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 Post subject: Re: Talking to your Doctor/Health Care Provider
PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:03 am 
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I don't want to Jump the Shark so I am laying low for at least 6 months. Besides, one would not sound very credible say he was cured after two or three months. In truth, no one would probably take me serious until after a year. But at least I can start a dialog.

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50 mg /since Jan 13, 2009 << you do the math
Average AF days 6/wk
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I now count days on Nal, rather than drinking days.

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 Post subject: Re: Talking to your Doctor/Health Care Provider
PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:10 am 
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I'm fortunate, in that we have a small group of very close friends who all drink. . .and several, I sense, who would love to find a way out of this quagmire produced by alcohol. One really special gal and her husband are the heaviest drinkers of the bunch (on most occasions). She adores her children and grandchildren. . .and a couple of them now have almost nothing to do with her, b/c of her drinking. I know they mean well, but it breaks my heart that she is judged for something she can't help. She deserves much better.

I had mentioned TSM to her husband, who got a bit gnarly, so dropped the subject. (Hey, who wants a know-it-all to tell you - over drinks - that there might be a way to quit or moderate drinking? :? ) But then last week he indicated that he's looking into it. . .how cool is that?

I also met an acquainance who is a health care professional at a local salon a few weeks ago. I had actually prayed to run into her, as she has dear relatives who are very heavy drinkers. I told her about TSM, and she took the time to take notes. If she becomes active in this, it will have a very positive influence locally, as she is highly regarded in our health care community.

Has anyone else contacted Oprah, or Dr. Oz, via oprah.com? I've done both. . .and I know that the more 'buzz' these show producers get, the more likely it is that they will follow up.

Just think: we could be guests on the show, once we've recovered! *grin*


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 Post subject: Re: Talking to your Doctor/Health Care Provider
PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 2:43 pm 
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I was fairly dreading seeing my addiction expert today and was in half a mind to cancel.
I was squarely told that pipe dreams about miracle cures are commonplace and
that we'd take another meeting end of june to see how it goes . Plus that the prob would not be solved if I was still taking a pill forever. Incidentally I live in france and for all I know I might be the sole person here onto SF . The fact we live in different countries has good points ,yet , I see virtually nothing in french on the net about SM so as anglophones we're probably vastly luckier in the info we can get at this time.

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 Post subject: Re: Talking to your Doctor/Health Care Provider
PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:16 pm 
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SpringerRider wrote:
I don't want to Jump the Shark so I am laying low for at least 6 months. Besides, one would not sound very credible say he was cured after two or three months. In truth, no one would probably take me serious until after a year. But at least I can start a dialog.



Hmmm...To me of course, three months is wonderful (but you are right (as you often are:)) less than a year is not going to be very credible to anyone.

I think we need to first concentrate on our own progress- none of us are there yet- then we can start worrying about spreading the word. In the meantime just posting our progress here and gathering new members is a BIG help- imagine if in 6 months each one of us recruits 5 new peeps thanks to our posts, who in turn recruit 5 new ones each who in turn recruit another 5 each. That is 1000s of people, who in time will be able to convert 1000s of medical professionals.

Job done 8-)


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 Post subject: Re: Talking to your Doctor/Health Care Provider
PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:04 pm 
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marbella wrote:
SpringerRider wrote:


Hmmm... (as you often are:))


But no one ever calls me sa·ga·cious

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50 mg /since Jan 13, 2009 << you do the math
Average AF days 6/wk
Average Drinking < 4 drinks/wk

I now count days on Nal, rather than drinking days.

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 Post subject: Re: Talking to your Doctor/Health Care Provider
PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:41 pm 
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Marbella's point indicates how things do very effectively spread.
All the time though we should keep communication open with doubting doctors,addiction counsellors etc , because doing this alone and faced with
weary scepticism in these visits could be discouraging .But , yes, for sake of credibility I 'll report back in 3 months.
If it's early days for the old timers I'm but a babe in arms here , but
1. i'll keep the dialogue open with the professionals
and 2 pencil in a firm intention to get word out in my church community
with an "information exists approach" .

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 Post subject: Re: Talking to your Doctor/Health Care Provider
PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:38 pm 
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elfern wrote:
Marbella's point indicates how things do very effectively spread.
All the time though we should keep communication open with doubting doctors,addiction counsellors etc , because doing this alone and faced with
weary scepticism in these visits could be discouraging .But , yes, for sake of credibility I 'll report back in 3 months.
If it's early days for the old timers I'm but a babe in arms here , but
1. i'll keep the dialogue open with the professionals
and 2 pencil in a firm intention to get word out in my church community
with an "information exists approach" .


Speak up elfern. We miss you.

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50 mg /since Jan 13, 2009 << you do the math
Average AF days 6/wk
Average Drinking < 4 drinks/wk

I now count days on Nal, rather than drinking days.

Drinking to my Health


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