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 Post subject: It's not gonna work for me ...???!?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:52 am 
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So I know you've all been through this ...and I'm being a tad repetitive !!! But I'm worried this ain't gonna work for me !!! I have alcohol issues ...so I can't stay away from the sloe gin...and I can't always drink slowly !!! I'm desperate to make it work and if I was on my own the sloe gin wouldn't get past the front door !!!! But he knows how much booze I've thrown out and he thinks I have control. I daren't throw anymore as his parents made it. I really feel the Nal is doing nothing ....I don't understand how all of a sudden it changes how I feel ??? I'm desperate not to be a lush fir the rest of my life !!! I don't drink during the day but I'm hung over every morning ! !!! Help xxxx

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 2:49 pm 
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give it time. you're what, 6 weeks in? you need to set your expectations to six months as an absolute minimum

stick to the Golden Rule, be mindful about your drinking if and when you can & BE PATIENT!!

hang in there

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 3:23 pm 
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so Hope, does he know you are trying TSM? If so then he should understand that you find it too much to have it around, I am the same with sweet pudding wine. I am also the same with crisps and biscuits, so we don't have them in the house! So yup ask discuss and get it out of the house if possible.

Also 100% back up Badger, 6 weeks is nowt, in fact at your stage I would suggest that its very easy, really just stick to the rule and let time help.. that's it

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:37 pm 
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Sweet pudding wine?? Sounds horrible!
Hope, I have started the same time as you and I am discouraged as well today. Yesterday was good in terms of how much i drank (3 drinks) but I felt very drunk after drinking them. I woke up feeling hungover. I did do the Golden Rule!
I actually left a beer on my dresser that I didn't finish last nite, but I drank it this a.m. Then I took a nal right away but drank most of the day today. Nothing new there, but it wasn't as much as before and i didn't really feel good doing it.
I thought that the nal I took last nite would still be effective in the a.m.
Anyway, I got really drunk on the three drinks last nite which puzzles me - I took the 50 mg nal one hour before!!

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 4:41 pm 
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susie123 wrote:
Hope, I have started the same time as you and I am discouraged as well today. Yesterday was good in terms of how much i drank (3 drinks) but I felt very drunk after drinking them. I woke up feeling hungover. I did do the Golden Rule!

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I actually left a beer on my dresser that I didn't finish last nite, but I drank it this a.m. Then I took a nal right away

TSM isn't going to work for you if you don't take your Nal an hour before drinking EVERY TIME

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susie123 wrote:
Sweet pudding wine?? Sounds horrible!
Hope, I have started the same time as you and I am discouraged as well today. Yesterday was good in terms of how much i drank (3 drinks) but I felt very drunk after drinking them. I woke up feeling hungover. I did do the Golden Rule!
I actually left a beer on my dresser that I didn't finish last nite, but I drank it this a.m. Then I took a nal right away but drank most of the day today. Nothing new there, but it wasn't as much as before and i didn't really feel good doing it.
I thought that the nal I took last nite would still be effective in the a.m.
Anyway, I got really drunk on the three drinks last nite which puzzles me - I took the 50 mg nal one hour before!!


Susie - have you read the book ? You really need to, to understand the logistics behind it and why it is so important that you take the nal an hour (at least) before drinking.

Just wondering .....

Hugs, Maggie x

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you can read/download the book here if you don't have a copy:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/60fs7gmvbyzs1kk/Cure%20for%20Alcoholism.pdf?dl=0

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 Post subject: Re: It's not gonna work for me ...???!?
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Hope,

At 6-8 weeks in I was feeling just like you, so much so I increased my dose because I was thinking it wasn't working. That increased dose lasted about 2 days and I realized I was just being inpatient, so I lowered it.

Keep away from things that cause you to over drink.

Take the sloe gin and give it back to his parents explaining to them you cannot trust yourself with it being in the house. Ask them to keep it for you until after the holidays (if they do not know about your problem, tell them you are trying to lose weight). Your BF needs to be a little more understanding, for the nal cannot slap that glass out of your hand, and until you develop more control he is just going to have to deal with certain things (tempting alcohol for you not being in the house). If he doesn't want to return the sloe gin, ask him to hide it from you and never bring it out while you are there. If he loves and understands you, he would want to help your progress not hinder it.

Susie,

I did a lot of research about the 1/2 life of nal, and you will need to take a pill once you wake up. It would be like drinking all day, for you would need to take another pill. 13 hours is the longest 50 mg last and Sinclair even commented on it on this forum through Dr. Eskapa for it was a question that came up (I believe he suggested 8 hours). You can find the post by searching under Dr. Eskapa. You need to remember that your brain has to unlearn the desire of alcohol (like training a dog) and if you drink without the nal your brain is going to remember (like a dog defecating inside the house)...So don't defecate on yourself by not taking the nal ;)

The Nal will not stop you from getting drunk. I have had times where I drank less but felt more drunk, and it could have been the nal or me being tired or the amount I drank the night before. The effects of nal is different for everyone and through out this process.

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 Post subject: Re: It's not gonna work for me ...???!?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 12:25 pm 
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Action + time is required, nal must be taken 1 hour before drinking and learning to change habits.

I can hear the desperation in your post, so it's there!

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 Post subject: Re: It's not gonna work for me ...???!?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 12:47 pm 
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Patience, patience. It is WAAAY to early to be saying that this isn't going to work for you.

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