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 Post subject: Briefly tried TSM in 2007 - Back for round two!
PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:38 pm 
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Hi Everyone-
Well I was on My Way Out back in 2007 (gives you an idea of how long I have been - sporadically- trying to finally whip this) and while I was on there, heard about a Finnish friend's Dad who used this "cure" there - looked it up, found Sinclair, but very little written about it. Still, I got some Naltrexone, and for the first three weeks it worked like a magic pill- I was thrilled beyond thrilled and posted about it there (under the same name if you want to have a look). Over those few weeks I drank about a third of what I had done usually, but then, I started to drink more on it, and it looked like it was less effective. I upped the dose, to no avail, and there was no one else doing TSM on the forums at the time, and Eskapa's book I don't think was out yet, so I had no frame of reference to tell me that was not necessarily a failure. I thought it had simply stopped working, and that I had figured out the hard way why no one in the US had taken up the Sinclair Method. Stopped taking it, went to AA, was miserable, started drinking again last summer, and as of the last two months haven't gone a single night without downing at least two bottles of wine.
Until last night, that is!
This because, having found my Nal pills while cleaning, I thought, for the first time in months "I wonder if other people tried that Nal experiment?", got online, went to My Way Out for the first time in 18 months or so, and was SHOCKED to find all these people who had started TSM - and that they all reported a honeymoon, then a spike in drinking which sometimes went down sometimes didn't, but that their attitude towards drinking was definitely affected for the better. Basically, because of the forums, I was able to look at my previous experience as normal, rather than idicating that the treatment didn't work or wouldn't work for me - so I am inspired to give it another shot!
So, first night was last night: 25 Nal, one bottle of wine. Felt it, but not really. Don't know why I got mydelf the last one. Could have been drinking water for all the effect it had. I took an Ambien though as I am terrified of not sleeping. Wasn't going to, wondered if it would be bad, or if it would just be blocked, and I can report that, like the wine, it was just truncated - I did go to sleep fast but I didn't go to sleep immediately. Anyone else taken Ambien on this?

Anyway your stories are REALLY encouraging - and it is so good to see that this method really can help! Am hoping it will for me - better late than never.
Good luck to all and see you around here soon!
DNM


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 Post subject: Re: Briefly tried TSM in 2007 - Back for round two!
PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:04 pm 
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Welcome.
Glad to have more company. In the past few days or so, I think 3-5 people have joined. Incredible.

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 Post subject: Re: Briefly tried TSM in 2007 - Back for round two!
PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:28 pm 
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:P welcome to you - I'm new also to this site - have not started the program yet but sure having a good look around - hope to start Monday after visit to dr. Good luck your second time around - very valuable that people like you post, as we all need many experiences of success/failure/try and try again so we can learn!!


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 9:31 pm 
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Welcome to you all & Good luck! We are all in this together!

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 Post subject: Re: Briefly tried TSM in 2007 - Back for round two!
PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 3:55 am 
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DNM
Welcome back to the board and thanks for sharing your background. It must have been quite a pleasant suprise for you to discover the reality of TSM having had some experiences BEFORE having read Dr. Eskapa's book, that should be re-assuring for you. Congratulations :) you are in the right place and on the right tracks, I look forward to seeing you progress
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 Post subject: Re: Briefly tried TSM in 2007 - Back for round two!
PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 8:25 am 
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Hi Drunknomore - I saw your post(s) over at MWO...glad you found your way here and are trying again.

I actually remember seeing your earlier posts over there and always wondered what happened!

Welcome & good luck to you this time around!


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 Post subject: Re: Briefly tried TSM in 2007 - Back for round two!
PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 10:49 am 
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Welcome! Your post makes me realize how invaluable this board is. Who wouldn't wonder what's going on when there is the "honeymoon" followed by the spike ("extinction burst")? Without the benefit of others, most people would assume TSM is a hoax. Well I can assure it is not -- TSM works! Welcome to the board.

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 Post subject: Re: Briefly tried TSM in 2007 - Back for round two!
PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:01 pm 
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Thanks everyone! Its good to be back, but even better now that I can have some hope thanks to all your incredible stories!!
On Thurs I will start a weekly update but, for now: The last two nights on Nal were different from when I initially did it back then - back then I could barely touch the stuff when I first started, this time it seems I am starting closer to where I left off - a bottle of wine both nights. However, I think I started on 50 back then, and this time did 25 - will up to 50 tonight to see if there's a difference.
Still - one bottle intake as opposed to two - equals a 50%+ reduction! But- I want to note there is this weird thing where I get up to get the third glass and think "Why?" and then get it anyway. I do get a buzz, no high, but definitely a buzz. I think tonight I will wait for the "why?" moment and delay by half an hour just to see if I obsess about it etc or not. I probably will obsess about it- this is just the start, but its interesting to see where your mind goes when the high is no longer as powerful but the habit is as powerful as ever.
And I have had almost no side effects, am glad to report, and I am feeling so much better during the daytime - more energy, no hangover, and the hope I'm getting from the little gains i've made so far makes me generally more positive.
So here's hoping! And thanks for the warm welcome and best of luck ALL!!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Briefly tried TSM in 2007 - Back for round two!
PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:45 pm 
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Welcome DNM!

How wonderful that you found this board, and you already had some Nal to get started again right away! Sounds like the Nal has an effect on you, and that's a great sign that TSM will be your answer - best wishes for you!


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