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 Post subject: Hi guys, newbie here, pls some advice!
PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2016 1:35 pm 
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Hi. I am really happy that I found this forum. I am on TSM about month, and at the beggining I just took 3 times half of pill, than I stop drinking for 51 day, and It was so great. I had few bad relapses, when I did not want to take pill because I had some bad side effects. Long story short. I took pill today, 50mgs at about 2 o clock at noon, and I am planing to dring few beers tomorrow, so will Naltrexone ware of for 24 hour??? Any experience. To be honest, I am not planing to take one tomorrow hour before drinking cus I just want to drink a few beer without pill for the last time ( I hope so). I would really appreciate your response. THANKS!

p.s Sorry, eng. is not my first language, but I hope you will understand :)

Oh, btw, I am 31yo, from Bosnia and Herzegovina.


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 Post subject: Re: Hi guys, newbie here, pls some advice!
PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2016 7:42 pm 
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Welcome Panos - the way to take the Nal correctly is to take it at least an hour before you drink. It is not good for 24 hours. If you are having bad side effects, try taking just half or even a quarter of a Nal and also make sure that you have food in your tummy when you take it. Once your body gets used to it, then you can up it to a half a Nal then hopefully eventually get up to 50 mg. Do you have a doctor giving it to you or did you order it from on line?

Maggie

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Month 12: 4 drinks TOTAL (Dec '15)
13: 2 drinks (nearly) for Jan '16 !!!
None since Jan '16 I feel that I can safely say that I am cured!


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 Post subject: Re: Hi guys, newbie here, pls some advice!
PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2016 9:57 pm 
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Panos, the pill only lasts for 12 hours. Best to take it an hour before you drink.

Maggie's suggestion about starting out at a lower dose is a good one. Perhaps have a small meal, then take 1/2 a pill with a full glass of water.

Did you drink every day before you found Naltrexone, or do you tend to binge drink?


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 Post subject: Re: Hi guys, newbie here, pls some advice!
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 8:51 am 
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First, thank you very much for response and advices. Even I took just 25mgs I drank only 2 beers (half litre), and one vodka (0.1 dcl ) or by your metric system just 10 percent of liter of vodka. And there was results. I read lot of stuff on this forum before engaging, and I felt funny felling, never felted before, and it was, "Hey Panos, that drink is disgusting, you do not need to dring that, and I knew that Naltr. work, a lil bit, but still good enough for beginning.

My dr. does not support SM...He prescribed me Nal. in the fashion than i always have one in my pocket, and when I feel urge to drink, I take one (it is half now) wait for an hour and I am good (hes opinion)with no cravings ....:Yes, I agree with him that Naltrexone will ease my craving, but if I drink hour after pill he writte it down as a recidive at my chart, and my " bad behaviour" so not, positive. So he belives that Nal. will take away my cravings, and that is it....no TSM, I have ti do it all by myself, and I have parents who are "alcohol police", with alc. detector etc...so, it is not easy :(

P.S again. ...Englis is not my firnst language, so I am sorry if you find it confusig to read my posts, but I hope, you would understand.

THAKY YOU ALL. I am hoping that this is my way out, because I read every single word about this metohod, and I am well, lets say, I am xperienced researcher. But when it comes to your own problems, nah, you can have PhD and it wont help you...you are able to provide help to ppl around you, with same problems, help, with great success ....not books, not teachers, just you. And I am hoping for that...THANKS!!


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 Post subject: Re: Hi guys, newbie here, pls some advice!
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 11:00 am 
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Your English is good enough, Panos.

It sounds like your doctor wants you to take Naltrexone every day, even if you don't drink. That's mostly how it's been prescribed in past and we know that taking it every day while abstinent doesn't work in the long run. You have it right, your doctor has it wrong.

Do you have a copy of The Cure for Alcoholism? We can get you a free PDF copy if you don't. Maybe your parents could read it too.


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 Post subject: Re: Hi guys, newbie here, pls some advice!
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 11:57 pm 
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I would appriceate pdf. copy of a book. But guys, I do not think that my dr or psychotherapist and ofcourse my parents ever accept TSM. I need to find some "secret weapon"..I dinked yesterday first thing after going from job (took half pill hour before) and they noticet it even they saw me 2 hrs later.....well, yes, I drang a litlle bit more and I still feel drunk alike even only with Nal, but I need to find a way for TSM, because I have all my hopes in this method...I am so pis*ed off.


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 Post subject: Re: Hi guys, newbie here, pls some advice!
PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2016 10:59 am 
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Yeah, we still struggle with acceptance and old dinosaurs in the medical community in pretty much every country, but it's getting better.

Take a look here for stuff you can share with others:

http://www.cthreefoundation.org/faqresources.html

And here for things you can print out for the doctor to look at:

http://www.cthreefoundation.org/print-resources.html

This is also being prescribed more and more to reduce problem drinking in Europe and the UK using Selincro (Nalmefene) instead of Naltrexone, though the doctors don't know of TSM by name. They basically work the same way, though Selincro has to be taken 2 hours before drinking. It's in the newest guidance from NICE, you can look it up on the web. Google NICE and Selincro.

Here's the link to the book:

www.dropbox.com/s/60fs7gmvbyzs1kk/Cure% ... m.pdf?dl=0

You may see a popup that prompts you to create an account, but you don't have to do that, just click the "No Thanks" link at the bottom of that popup window. You should then see a blue download button at the upper right of the page. Save it to your Documents folder or your desktop, wherever you can find it easily. That way you don't have to wait for it to load from Dropbox every time.


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 Post subject: Re: Hi guys, newbie here, pls some advice!
PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2016 4:10 pm 
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Thanx a LOOOOT JoeSixPack . I know i wil for sure read all of that, but my drs, and mz parents, nah...but I found a way, I can leave job place hour and a half before working time, so I can take Nal, and 3 to 3 bearg a,dter Nal works...I just hope mz parents wont ntice..huh, this is such a a hard life, really!!!


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