so first, because its available, i would take 4 aleve. next i would talk to your dr and tell them that you took a friends zomig and it really helped and you would like to see if it would help next time you get a migraine. its not a common migraine drug. usually they put you on imitrex which for me caused rebound headaches. they also can perscribe a nightly pill of a very low dosage of an anti-depressent. it does nothing more than relax your neck muscles while you sleep. but start with 4 aleve. it used to be naproxen and was a perscription. when they made it over the counter they lowered the dosage.

hot showers help me. i just sit in them and let the water run over me. lying down usually makes symptoms worse because its the pressure of the blood flowing through vessels in your head. sometimes in the shower i feel as though they are almost gone. usually i do that while i wait for the meds to work.

hopefully that helps you a bit. aspirin, ibprophen and tylenol do nothing for me. let me know.

also if you just need to sleep it off, take zzquil

Thanks for replying,

I never thought about a shower, but should try that. And I am the same with you, I cannot lay down, for it makes it worse.

I have always been afraid of aleve because it has a higher side effect rate. I knew someone that had a lot of side effects with it and it was not fun for her; however, it never hurts to try (especial since I woke up with another one today).

My sister had a side effects with imitrex and when she took it she had to be in the e.r., so I never even bothered with it. Her doctor retired and no one would refill what she was taking (demerol), so she was stuck with the imitrex (at least the last I heard, I do not speak to her any more).

I am already on Wellbutrin and would prefer not be on two anti-depressants.

The Naproxen (aleve) is something I would have to talk to my pharmacist about, for I am on a diuretic, and I would be taking above the required amount.

I think my problem is the nal. is blocking something in my brain. When I take the nal. for an expended period of time and go off of it for AF days, the migraines start. I do know that Wellbutrin can cause headaches (which I never had an issue with), and I am wondering if the nal. blocks something with the Wellbutrin or it could be the Adderall XR (which I cannot wait to get off of), or the two combined. Or, something I thought about yesterday, my brain doesn't like my receptors opening up...if that isn't a kick in the head! For I really do feel better on nal. than off, and I never get those good feelings when I am off of it.

Yes, isn't if fun being an alcoholic with other issues !

Thanks for the suggestions,

Jaba

I guess I always thought the Ah Moment was when you realized you don't crave drinking too but I never had that experience exactly per se. From my very first dose of Naltrexone was an Ah Moment really. That is to say that it completely cut off what we commonly refer to as the chase. That very first night I kept drinking but it was purely out of habit. A 25 year long habit and one that culminated into daily drunkenness to black out pass out proportions. That night I went from 16-20 drinks down to 7 then down to 3 which is what I have maintained ever since with the exception of a few nights here and there.

So for me that version of Ah was instant.

As for the other version... That's the one I looked forward to the most. In fact that's why I drank. I drink becasue I drank and because I drank I drink. I was a functional alcoholic. So I could be pass out black out drunk at night wake up go to work and function all day. Coffee in the morning would help me through the hardest part. THen by noonish I'd start feeling better. After lunch I'd even feel pretty good but then it would start. The sickness would settle in and no matter how many promises I'd make to stop drinking it would happen again. It sneaks in like the night itself. The darkness creeps in and the light at the end of the tunnel is that first drink. Depending on how much I drank the night before I would make my first drink appropriately. If I had a good solid day of suffering then I needed a nice stiff one. That would usually be a beer with a couple shots of vodka or whiskey.

Over the lips over the gums look out tummy here she comes. And when it went down the first thing that swept over me was this overwhelming sense of the cure. The cure to the self inflicted sickness of drinking. Once the solution was down the panic and the crisis was over and everything in the world was good again. Sights, colors, sounds, textures all had their happy place. Everything was okay. The calmness was intense and peaceful. I felt like I could finally breath again. After that the only thing that I had to worry about was having a plan and enough to drink for the evening. That was almost always never a problem. That's the good thing about being a functional alcoholic and I think of it as a sort of parasitic relationship where the parasite doesn't want to kill it's host, I had a job and could afford my poison, my pleasure, my cure.

But that Ah Moment as wonderful and beautiful it was would only last so long. It was an instant and powerful feeling of being cured but then the sickness would creep in again and demand more and more. After that it just became a fruitless endeavour. A never ending hunt for Utopia, a fountain of youth. And even knowing that it was paradise myth I would keep on trying. I do believe that this knowing is part of how TSM works for me. Being very well aware of the fact that the only reason I drink at the end of the day is for that mere 20 minutes of bright light and perfection. 20 minutes out of the 1400 minutes in a day. The trade off was never worth it and TSM has alloud me to cut that off.

I get asked if I miss that Ah Moment and the answer is definitively NO. You would think one would. IT was incredibly pleasurable but the only reason why it was is because of the self inflicted misery that built it up. And knowing that after that Ah Moment would be a useless pursuit like a dog chasing it's tail and yet keeping on doing it every single day is by definition a form of insanity.

Jaba, what you say makes logical sense, because endorphins and other naturally produced compounds that use the opoid receptors are natural pain killers. .

This might interest you:

http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles. ... onic-Pain/

Ocean, I have a question for you.

Did you keep a diary of the first couple of days that you drank on Nal, and did you happen to record the times that you drank? By this I mean how long between pouring each drink, not the time of day.

If you have that info, or feel you can recall it pretty accurately, would you share that?

I'm interested in why TSM works so quickly and "perfectly" for some and not others. There's a reason I'm asking about the timing but in order not to influence your memory I won't go into right now.

Yes I did. I used an App called Alcodroid and it records all that information. I don't think I can attach a document here so I posted it to Pastebin which is a free anonymous site for posting data. It will disappear in one month. As you can see from it. I started on June 19th and it all went down hill from there

I think I was pretty good at keeping track but I've been known to pour a glass of wine and tip the bottle back for a nice swig before corking it too. SO if anything the numbers pre-nal would be larger but definitely not smaller. Over all though I wsa pretty good at keeping track. I stopped tracking about a month ago because now if I drink I rarely have more then 3.

http://pastebin.com/9fXZRnNR

I'm curious to know what your hypothesis. Mine is that I was a simple lab rat and the only reason why I drank so much was because of that chase. I've notice the same thing in other addictions namely cocaine. It was always the very first line or drink and after that it was like a horse race. Naltrexone just completely shut that operation down.

Ocean,

Since you are one of the poster children, would you mind putting this in your progress page, or starting a new topic saying something like Ocean's drinking record? I think it would help those lurking to realize how much you drank and how much this help. See is believing. It is just a suggestion (since it will disappear in a month).

Jaba

I just keep looking at it and re-looking at it...amazing!

Wow, Ocean!! You are really a data collector!! I am impressed!! Newlife

It looks even better when you make nice bar charts and line graphs out of it I'll make a weekly post tomorrow. I guess I can cut and paste the whole table in and see what it looks like.